Pirates

Just curious, what do you folks think about this? Should the US Navy be held responsible for ensuring that any vessel in international waters can navigate unmolested?

http://www.state.gov/g/oes/rls/rm/6796.htm

It appears that we always have gone after these people because of international laws of the sea

Well. Gunny, you were a marine and you probably know your history right? the ONLY reason the marines were formed were to do that. That and make sure the Squids didnt rebel against thier captains and fight pirates.

Pretty much, marines always have done that, but suddenly the army cant get the job done so The marines gotta go save em every now and then(which means just about everytime they fight now) =O. Kinda sucks though they make marines both guard all the ships whenthey're an under 200,000 man force AND be an expeditionary force.

er, i mean that the squids wouldnt mutiny against the captains, and they also fought pirates. What friggin marines werent doing thier job before the war of 1812 to stop these friggin red coats from intimidating sailors into thier navy?

Think it's a great idea. Also gives us the opportunity to make some payback ashore. See the article on the front page of the forums here.

http://www.news24.com/News24/Africa/News/0,,2-11-1447_2128782,00.html

http://www.acidus.com/Continental_Marines.html USMC-someguy I had to bring up your profile to understand your comment I now relize you are a comedien also.You are useing words such as Squid used only by USMC which I use only in return the name Jarhead in respect.By the way please read the articular about John Paul Jones and (his) Marines and the fact that he was a Naval Officer

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Originally posted by USMC-someguy:

Pretty much, marines always have done that, but suddenly the army cant get the job done so The marines gotta go save em every now and then(which means just about everytime they fight now) =O.

I am not sure that I understand this comment because piracy at sea has nothing to do with the Army – was this just a cheap shot?

Yep. I guess the US is now responsible.

SUBJECT: Maritime Security (Piracy) Policy

The attached Policy for the Repression of Piracy and Other Criminal Acts of Violence at Sea (Piracy Policy) is approved for immediate implementation, consistent with applicable law and subject to the availability of appropriations. The policy shall be appended to the National Strategy for Maritime Security as Annex B.

This policy responds to the emergence of high-risk maritime areas that threaten U.S. interests. Recent instances of piracy have highlighted the need for this policy in order to coordinate U.S. Government response and to promote international solutions. This policy advances our commitment to cooperate with other states, regional and international organizations, and the maritime industry in order to counter this threat. The United States has long been a leader in the protection of navigational rights and freedoms. Our objectives consistently have been to promote and facilitate peaceful international uses of the oceans. We recognize that all nations have an interest and responsibility in protecting those rights and freedoms.

GEORGE W. BUSH

http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2007/06/20070614-3.html

PS--

http://www.talklikeapirate.com/

A few things. Harryp, ur an idiot. Piracy/privateers were a problem back then, so get ur history right. Marines during that time defended ships meaning YES THEY FOUGHT PIRATES IF the pirates tried attacking thier ship. 2nd, yeah sully
i was using the term squid for navy =o. O and, sucks that the marines are considered part of the navy -_-. when i talk to my grandpa about the marines he reminds me of that. Smartass navy airman -_-

Can you actually read?

USMC someguy- sounds like if you are old enough go find one of those poor old 0-squids and let him kick your ass a couple of times .PS make sure that old 0- Squid is over 70 you sound like you are a real Bad ASS esp ASS. Just my (oponion).Also my oponion of USMC means a Hell of a lot to me but that does not include no pimpley faced wanabe.

USMC Someguy

Just so you know, I would be honored to have men like Harry, Mech, Sully, Rocketeer on my team anyday, in any fight, anywhere.

I count myself lucky to even be associated with men of this caliber.

Learn, grow, but practice common sense in here. These guy's have all served long and distingished careers in service to our respective governments military forces.

Note that none of these men have demanded respect, however you should be aware that they have already earned the respect of the nation in more ways than I can count, so I ask you....are you certain you wish to take that path?

Marines were founded 10 Nov, 1775 long before the Barbary Pirates kerfuffle. USMC was not founded to deal with piratical activities.

I believe Great Britain's Royal Marines were more of a security force to guard against possible mutineering sailors. Marines first and foremost engage with the enemy.

The question here is, why not kill pirates? Sounds fun as hell. I'd take that job at a discount.

Which is probably why you're not in the USMC.

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Originally posted by HarryP:

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Originally posted by USMC-someguy:

Pretty much, marines always have done that, but suddenly the army cant get the job done so The marines gotta go save em every now and then(which means just about everytime they fight now) =O.

I am not sure that I understand this comment because piracy at sea has nothing to do with the Army – was this just a cheap shot?

Sorry if i didnt connect those right. Piracy and the army thing is totally seperate. I was referring to the marines working on land nowadays, i was referring to pirates in the early years. I was talking about the marines kicking the door open and working with the army. I think this quote speaks for itself

We have two companies of Marines running rampant all over the northern half of this island, and three Army regiments pinned down in the southwestern corner, doing nothing. What the hell is going on?

Mmmm... i gotta stop posting after i take sleeping pills... Yeah Harryp i just noticed whats wrong. Mmmm, and yeah i guess i was confused about the marine corp dealing with piracy. Coulda sworn i read somewhere abuot the marines dealing with pirates -_-. Guess i better open a damn revoultionary war book again. And Sorry, i dont know what i was thinking. Yeah... once i reread that post i made could be confusing. By the way, speaking

Anyone know what the say is on starting as an officer(by graduating from a naval academy) vs working your way up and getting a commission is?