well when they wont tell you, it tends to mean that its right but they dont want ti say it. so chaces are it performs well, maybe not 500km/h maybe even better, but if it failed then they would say it.

Well, on the least Iran's Revolutionary guard claims that it's a lot better then the Skvall. i still have some doubts as to whether Iran ahs the capacity to develop something like this, so their reports are highly unreliable.

Although, like I said, US Army refused to give comment. My opinion, they did this for a political reason. if they denied that Iran has this torpedo, then the Iranians could have said that the USA radars can't track them (they actually DID say that, by the way). If they acknowledged the existance of this weapon, the Iranians would gain a propaganda advantage.

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Originally posted by thegunny:
Sadass over-estimated US Military power twice. Look where it got him.

Those same Iranian generals would be running for cover were they to ever actually have to deal with our military.

-Saddam was a minority ruling a Majority
-Saddam Navy was wiped out by us(Iran) and never recovered so he had no navy
-Saddam's Air Force was too scared to fight the U.S. because of the experience they had fighting against us(Iran)
Iran's F-14 had 160 kills vs 2 loses and our Air Force had over 270 Air to Air kills
we hardly ever lost any fighter in the Air against Iraqi's
Loses to our Air Force were mainly due to lack of Parts because of a U.S. embargo and first wave of surprise attacks by Saddam

-Saddam was so scared of Iran that he was willing to risk a war with the U.S.

-If Saddam overestimated the U.S. he would have fought the U.S. with his Air Force not fly it to other country's in both wars

Saddam was a pussy he didn't overestimate anyone


-Iran has the 5th Largest stockpile of "Ballistic Missile" in the World and the largest in the Middle East
-Iran has the largest stockpile of Anti Ship Missile in the Middle East
-Iran has the Largest Fleet of Helicopters in the Middle East
-Iran has the Largest Total Troops in the world
-Iran has the largest Infantry support weapons in the M.E.
-Iran has the largest Artillery Force in the M.E.
-Iran has the Strongest Navy in the M.E.
-our Air Forces record speaks for its self.
-Iran has the most self-sufficient military in the M.E.
-Our UAV's Fly over U.S. Air Craft Carriers undetected anytime they want (U.S. calls its Carriers the most secure place in the world. LOL)
you can see the videos on youtube
-Iran is the 18th largest country's in the world and is about the same size of the United Kingdom, France, Spain, and Germany combined
(Iraq was smaller than Spain)
-Iran has the largest stockpile of Chemical Weapons in the world
-Iran is the richest country in the M.E.

Iraq was all desert Iran Military equipment is hidden in mountains all through out Iran and in rough terrain

So please make our day

If war break out in the first "hour" we will fire over 2,000 Missiles (Ballistic Missile, Anti-ship Missile and Cruise Missile) at U.S. forces in M.E. and Israel

Top Iranian commander has promised you over 11,000 missiles in the "first day" and 2,000 in the first hour if one site in Iran is hit

all U.S. ships and bases would be destroyed in the first hour

And thats just our Missile

You think Israeli attacks on Iraqi nuclear facility's were impressive? Please! they broke no record
Iran's Air Strikes on Iraq's H-3 Air Base broke the world record for the longest strike in world history at that time and we were flying fuel guzzling F-4's not one engine F-16's

plus we know where all your forces are (ships, Bases, ...) you have no Idea were our missiles are hidden

and U.S. and Israeli intell is so horrible that before we started our war games you had no Idea what our capabilities were and U.S. and Israeli military annalists were in their own words shocked of the massive force and technological capability's of our Missiles


I would love to see you attempt to enter Iran with ground forces

All U.S. can do is strike
so what
we can strike back 10 times harder and faster

If U.S. was to attack they would deploy a maximum of 5 B-2 Bombers and they would have to use cruse missile

how many sites do you really think U.S. can hit before we start launching our Missiles?
20 max

In the Iran-Iraq war Iran had to go to war 1 year after the revolution most of the people in the former military ran way so a majority of our forces were not trained and ready for war
on top of that Iran destroyed Iraq in the first two years and took back all the land that was occupied by saddam and Saddam was almost overthrown
Saddam was supported by the U.S., U.K., France, Russia, .... with money, Intel and weapons

after the first two years we were running out of weapon and we couldn't get parts for our equipments due to U.S. embargo and sanctions
while all the world powers were supporting Saddam
still he was not able to take an inch from Iran

we fought against the world with nothing so
fighting you(U.S.) with all we have now will be a peace of cake

Don’t forget, you also have no homosexuals.

Where did this numbers thing come up? This isn't a ZULU war. Numbers mean nothing these days. Tactics do. Did some of you skip out of town when the first Gulf war began and ended? Going by the looks of those Iranian military dopes proves they still have a long way to go with their version of the Gillette Razor weapon...let alone anything else.

Iran has the 5th Largest stockpile of "Ballistic Missile" in the World and the largest in the Middle East
-Iran has the largest stockpile of Anti Ship Missile in the Middle East
-Iran has the Largest Fleet of Helicopters in the Middle East
-Iran has the Largest Total Troops in the world
-Iran has the largest Infantry support weapons in the M.E.
-Iran has the largest Artillery Force in the M.E.
-Iran has the Strongest Navy in the M.E.
-our Air Forces record speaks for its self.
-Iran has the most self-sufficient military in the M.E.
-Our UAV's Fly over U.S. Air Craft Carriers undetected anytime they want (U.S. calls its Carriers the most secure place in the world. LOL)
you can see the videos on youtube
-Iran is the 18th largest country's in the world and is about the same size of the United Kingdom, France, Spain, and Germany combined
(Iraq was smaller than Spain)
-Iran has the largest stockpile of Chemical Weapons in the world
-Iran is the richest country in the M.E.


Wow. That's quite a list you have presented in here. I'm impressed. The reality of this... is all this equipment boils down to that equipment and men being just targets to us should war become an option. Like Saddam, you are overestimating the impact of all this equipment and men should they come into play. Thats ok by me. Were I you, I wouldn't brag too much about that long range mission using F-4's way back when. After all, the USA made that mission possible, not you guy's. All you guy's did then is placed pilots in aircraft we sold you, and oh yeah, we trained those same pilots how the fly the friggin things. Real impressive accomplishment there junior. An the bit about UAV's overflying our aircraft carriers? May as well compare that to a flea attacking a elephant. Your countries UAV's are rudimentry at best with no weapons capability, but likely they can take a picture or two, so you can present the world with a kodac moment.

And there's this little bit about chemical weapons. Those are great weapons to have around and in using them, it cuts both ways. Are all of your troops in all branches of the military outfitted with the required protection to allow them to continue to function at full capacity in areas where these weapons are used? Highly doubtful as we haven't sold those suits to you, and we'd know if Russia or China did. So bottomlline is those weapons will not do you much good in a conventional scenerio.

Funny you never took into account our submarine forces. Care to tell us how you plan to defeat those?

And your new fighter jet? geez that aircraft is obsolete before it even left the drawing board. Granted it is the first combat capable aircraft produced in your country, but they based it on existing aircraft design with some minor modifications and called it your own. You do know thats called reverse engineering? So I'm really not too impressed with your countries efforts along these lines. And another thing, your statement about your Air Forces record speaking for itself? For crying out loud son, do you really think we trained your pilots with ALL of our tactics and knowledge while they were all over here sucking up the booze and playing with all the whores? Get friggin real.

We could go on if you are really interested?

and congrat's on being the 18th largest country in the world. I'm so terribly impressed with that little bit of useless information.

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Nice bitch slap gunny!

I have my moments

quote:

Originally posted by Mr.Jo:

-Iran has the Largest Total Troops in the world

Actually...China has the largest army in the world, followed by the USA, India and Russia (In chronological order).

quote:

Originally posted by Mr.Jo:

after the first two years we were running out of weapon and we couldn't get parts for our equipments due to U.S. embargo and sanctions
while all the world powers were supporting Saddam
still he was not able to take an inch from Iran

we fought against the world with nothing so
fighting you(U.S.) with all we have now will be a peace of cake

That line about running out of parts says it all...Iran has NO manufacturing facilities of their own to speak of...what makes you think that that wouldn't be a problem again and SOONER were you to enter into a direct conflict with the US of A? If that 3rd world place is so great, why do you send your students here to be educated? Why aren't Americans flocking to that country?

America's biggest enemy would be apathy and lack of stomach for war..NOT your supposed military capabilities

Would it be fun? No, playing a game on someone elses field never is...but WE are the greatest road team in the HISTORY of civilization. Do not doubt our strength or resolve...Many have tried..many have failed

The good news is, after we win, we will rebuild that country and then Iranians can move out of caves and have a Wal-Mart and McDonalds on every corner...and I get cheaper gas...everyone wins

This worked!

yes i aggree with the gunny.......1 interesting point tho... fighting a ground war has its problems in iran ie: the mountainous terrain poses many tactical roadblocks and whats key is this puts our ground troops at high risk. yes , air strikes would devistate their infastructure yes drone attacks targeting key points would be effective. BUT and the BIG but is can we finish up on the ground, leveling the regime and crippleing their capabilites. QUESTIONABLE. This debate remains on the DOD table on a daily basis as iran continues to its path to war. I am convinced that this, we wont know until we go and doit.......In my opinion the US military is quite capable of geting the job done , but its going to cost us in that of casualties and public support. This is why it hasnt been done yet and i believe this is a long way off unless iran acts on some of its baless rehtoric that has been broadcasted out of this country for mmmmm let me c like 30yrs......HIGHY DOUBTFULL WE WILL ROCK N ROLL WITH THEM FOR SUM TIME......
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mr joe is tripping on irainian BALONEY.......if 1/2 those missles got launched right, prolly like,5 maybee hit their target r get shot down.....thats #1
......#2 check the specs dude yer missles dont go that far to strike american targets ....???get a grip........tighten yer towel bro trus me ........ wake up n smell the coffe mr joe yer country is out gunned......BIG TIME......

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Originally posted by marine1:
mr joe is tripping on irainian BALONEY.......if 1/2 those missles got launched right, prolly like,5 maybee hit their target r get shot down.....thats #1
......#2 check the specs dude yer missles dont go that far to strike american targets ....???get a grip........tighten yer towel bro trus me ........ wake up n smell the coffe mr joe yer country is out gunned......BIG TIME......

so what about american basses in the region?ha?your naval base in bahrain!your camps in iraq and afghanestan,are those american targets in your opinion?and i think they are in the 3000km circle

Geez o'pete. We don't even have to leave to US to hit any part of Iran.

Still like the idea about refitting out one of our old Battleships with latest tech and handing it over to Israel.