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Registered: 24 January 2005
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rppearso...you really need to increase your medication.


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The Gunny

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The Marines are at war, America is at the mall.
Registered: 08 March 2007
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I really don't see why everyone thinks this person is so horrible, sure he has different veiws than you, but he's expressed them with no threats or insults as you've responded with, I mean, if he's so wrong, than just out debate him. Most importantly, I neither agree nor disagree with his posts and will not take a stance on his opinion, just the civility of how he is treated.


"Untutored Courage is useless in the face of educated bullets"
-George Patton
"I would rather be exposed to the inconveniences attending too much liberty than those attending too small a degree of it. "
Thomas Jefferson
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Registered: 06 September 2006
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Why dont you come and shoot me yourself Aufklarer.


Ok. Can someone supply me with his address please? I'll show him. sniper


Registered: 08 March 2007
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Internet threats are so funny. They're the most obviously hollow kind, so it's funny when people make them.


"Untutored Courage is useless in the face of educated bullets"
-George Patton
"I would rather be exposed to the inconveniences attending too much liberty than those attending too small a degree of it. "
Thomas Jefferson
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Add hyperion's address to my list.

Anyone who provides the addresses, please give a price.


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Location: Washtenaw County, Michigan
Registered: 21 January 2005
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rppearso:

Recrudesence /re crud ESS ence/n. The reappearance of a wound or sore; figuratively, the reappearance of something bad.


"It is fatal to enter any war without the will to win it"
DOUGLAS MacARTHUR, 1952
Registered: 08 March 2007
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Originally posted by Aufklarer:
Add hyperion's address to my list.

Anyone who provides the addresses, please give a price.

Seriously you are one sad sad person that you make death threats because you disagree with someone on a forum. Seriously man, that's weak.


"Untutored Courage is useless in the face of educated bullets"
-George Patton
"I would rather be exposed to the inconveniences attending too much liberty than those attending too small a degree of it. "
Thomas Jefferson
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Registered: 24 January 2005
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hyperion

you obviously don't know the history with that one. Engage him if you want to hear the same story over and over again.


Forums aren't for everyone. Forums can be great places to share and open yourself up, but be carefull as there are those out there that will react badly to the written word no matter what the original intent was. rppearso, by his own admission is what we call a deserter. He is currently AWOL from his command. Now, how do you think those of us that have served with honor and distinction should treat someone like that? Should we pander to his pathetic excuses? Should we provide a way for him to rationalize his actions?


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Registered: 19 February 2006
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How ironic is it that I was kicked off military.com but by your opinion should remain in the guard. BTW hyperion I am not in "deserter" status, I am going through the appropriate channels to get out it is just taking a very long time. The military is the most convoluted nonsence I have ever experenced, if I were still in the military no one would want me in "there" unit but in the regular army I would have been forced to stay in. No one on here can explain the logic, yet they maintain the mentality to the end. ???
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Registered: 24 January 2005
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rppearso, call it what you want, until you post your DD-214 discharge code in here, you will always be a deserter in our eyes.


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The Gunny

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"Curmudgeon"
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Location: Washtenaw County, Michigan
Registered: 21 January 2005
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He will never take responsibility for his failure gunny.


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Registered: 24 January 2005
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Harry

Never really expected him to as he's been blowing smoke up our tailpipes since he arrived here.

I just laid it out in hopes that our buddy Hyperion would recognize him for what he truely is.


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The Gunny

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Registered: 08 March 2007
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1. ok I was not informed of his status of dropping out of the military (awol)
2. I'm am going to refrain from passing judgement about whatever he did as I don't want to get caught up in a flame war.


"Untutored Courage is useless in the face of educated bullets"
-George Patton
"I would rather be exposed to the inconveniences attending too much liberty than those attending too small a degree of it. "
Thomas Jefferson
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Registered: 24 January 2005
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Figured that you'd see the light at some point, as you have displayed that capability more than once in here.

Frankly I'm surprised he hasn't been booted out of here, as in mil.com forum.

Remember Hyperion, the large majority of members in here are military veterans both from the US and other countries. I know you've been on the receiving end with being flamed over some of your posts. Live and learn. Don't dwell on it. Builds charactor. Take this stuff with a grain of salt, but if the shoe fits, then wear the damn thing and shuffle along.

You have a sharp mind, and thats refreshing. Engage with well thought out posts and you can't go wrong.

Ain't nothing written, or any unwritten rules says we all have to agree with anyones conclusions, regardless of where they found it.

This place is only a common place that we stumbled onto ourselves and many of us have taken root. While we don't own it, (and we all greatly appreciate the site owners generosity in setting this place up!!) and tend to treat it like we would if we were all sitting at a bar having a brew, shooting the shit and getting to know one another better. Not sure if you realise this, but if we were all sitting at a bar having a brew, while in here we are limited to flaming someone for due cause, at the bar, it would be a down and out fist fight. I know for a fact that even the regulars in here and I don't all see eye to eye at times, but in the end, we would still pick each other up off the floor and order a round for the house. (entertainment fee)

Some in here have you on ignore for thier own reasons, that's between you and them, I haven't and don't plan on doing so.


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The Gunny

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America is not at war.
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Registered: 19 February 2006
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As soon as I get some kinda paper work I will have to let you know, dont know if it will be a DD214, it may be more along the lines of an ELS but we shall see. If I were AWOL I would have been dropped from the rolls by now and had an arrest warrent, but I am working with the guard and have finished my paper work up about 2 months ago through email and a few phone calls. If I had a warrent out for my arrest they would be required by law to notify me prior to the warrent being issues to take care of the problem.

BTW I dont really go to bars, you cant have a firearm in a bar and even if you did you can not legally use it should someone want to threaten your safety.

I dont know why I havent been booted, but I do know I bring up very valid points and make very valid arguments that are usually met with childish remarks or flames and do not and never have really been answered, I provide articles to boot so these views I share are not myn alone.
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Registered: 24 January 2005
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hmmm,bring a gun to a fist fight? is that the type of person you have become?

Warrents are issued, they don't mail them to you, call you or send you an email. they simply arrest you. I have never heard of anyone get out of the military via email.

All discharges are documented on a DD-214. You would be an utter complete fool to have them process a DD-214 without you being present so you can sign it signifying that it is correct and accurate. If you aren't there, they can put anything in it and you cannot get it changed at a later date.

Your documents are internet articles. Anyone can publish anything on the internet. They have zero weight to them. You want to document your justifications for your actions, try citing laws. You might get somewhere.

I personally don't have anything against you, I simply tired of the repeated posts and your attempts to disuade youngsters that came in here for advice from the highly qualified and distinguished veterans that reside in here. You had no cause to do that except childish spite, and lashing out at us in here. That was bullshit and you know it. You continue to do this country a severe dis-service when you do that.


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The Gunny

PROUD TO BE AN INFIDEL

America is not at war.
The Marines are at war, America is at the mall.
Registered: 19 February 2006
Posts: 1299
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Then maybe the military should clean up its act and stop treating some of its members like indentured servants. I will have to pull up the laws for you stating where it is required that the police notify you of an arrest warrant before it is issued so you can go to the police station to clear up the issue before you are arrested. Im sure I will eventually have to come in to sign something but the wheels turn very slowly so long as my mil ID does not expire before the wheels stop truning then I will have to get a a temporary pass to get on base which is fine with me.

As far as the articles, they are not to justify my actions they are to show the true side of the military and why it is foolish to join.
"Dozy Old Fat Git"
Registered: 16 February 2005
Posts: 1875
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Dam,n!!... even with the " block " turned on I still hear a whining drone in the background..

guess global warming has reached Alaska and he thawed out enough to post his drivel again..

nice to see he can still take a thread off topic with such aplomb!!


There I was , at the head of the old 68th...
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Registered: 24 January 2005
Posts: 3895
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hmmm, big difference between federal warrent and regular police warrent where you can show up the station to deal with it before they arrest you.

I reckon everything I said just flew right over your hairspray again. Back to ignore for you. Best of luck to you.


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The Gunny

PROUD TO BE AN INFIDEL

America is not at war.
The Marines are at war, America is at the mall.
Registered: 19 February 2006
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im simply stating what can and frequently does happen in the military. Alot of recruiters blow alot of smoke, Im here to show the side the recruiters dont tell you about. You can call the articles what ever you want but alot of them come from military.com. Stating the law does not add alot of value because the short answer for military law is we own you and if you do anything contrary to our will we will rape you in the rear which is a very good reason not to join, in fact I should just post clips of the UCMJ and that will get people thinking, like if you refuse to fire your weapon at the enemy or refuse to do your utmost in a combat situation you can be prosecuted so even if you dont desert or go AWOL they can still prosecute you how messed up is that, if a sgt/officer doesnt like your tone you can be reprimanded. The articles provide peoples real live experences getting burned bad by "military law", the military is made up of people not robots and to suggest that the UCMJ is constitutional based on the fact that commanders need "control" is complete nonsence. This applies 10 fold to conscripts or draftees who did not sign.
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