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![]() Location: On an 'Overseas Contingency Operation'
Registered: 08 March 2005
Posts: 1119
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New in Canada:
Military fitness test axed Out-of-shape recruits will be accepted, and sent to trainers for improvement
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/story/RTGAM.2006...NStory/National/home Was this not the U.S.'s problem after WWII when the vets and regulars got wined and dined...got fat then were 'run down' by the chicoms when Korea I started? |
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Registered: 19 February 2006
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america was actually allowing slightly over weight people to stay in before canada started doing it. So now they are letting in fat people and low test scores (and of course its sugar coated by the military that there not that fat and the scores arent that bad). When they start accepting people like me that defy athority and fail to adapt and regualarly go AWOL what will the cavscouts of this country do. Oh thats right start shooting people in the back, hmm wont that kinda make us like 3rd world countrys.
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![]() Registered: 29 June 2006
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The American & Canadian military change of policy is born out of desperation. The number of quality new military recruits are unfortunately dwindling. As more & more Americans & Canadians are weary of the war in Afghanistan & Iraq. Increasing casualties in Irag & Afghanistan, sad to say has weaken the resolve of a once proud & strong nations. It is very unfortunate that this new generation of Americans & Canadians do not have the will & perseverance necessary to win a long & bloody war against the terrorist.
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Registered: 06 September 2006
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Hey, rppearso, there goes your way of getting out of the army!!
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![]() Registered: 06 March 2005
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Pearson failed basic training, but in his defense, well, not really his defense along those lines, but If I were him, I'd feel pretty irritated that standards are being lowered here at home, though too late for his problems with the military.
We often think of the noble and valiant when we think of our fighting forces, but the rude awakening always comes one way or another when we're reminded that they are all run by bureaucrats with no sense of esprit de corps. |
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Registered: 15 November 2006
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Honestly some people need the armed forces to discipline them, and if there's a will, there's a way.
If a undisciplined person has a desire to start on a clean slate, they should be given that opportunity (especially if the system works). Well, only if the system works. It sounds like it might. Interesting. “Whether it be by divine intervention or natural instinct, one thing is certain- Harmony with the universe and those around you is the one known truth.”- John Mapehk Tosher |
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Registered: 06 September 2006
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Thing is, rppearso is special. And he doesn't have the will to start on a clean slate.
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Registered: 15 November 2006
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rppearso's fat? “Whether it be by divine intervention or natural instinct, one thing is certain- Harmony with the universe and those around you is the one known truth.”- John Mapehk Tosher |
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Registered: 19 February 2006
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I am overweight for military standards, but am by no means obese by the rest of the nations standards. Alot of people like to melodramatize things.
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![]() Location: Arizona
Registered: 08 May 2005
Posts: 1993
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Oh man, thanks for that. You were really pissing me off for a while. Now THAT was funny. |
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Registered: 06 September 2006
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We should give rppearso some sort of medal for that post.
It's the only one of his posts that I haven't seen 869 times yet. |
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Location: Ahwatukee Arizona
Registered: 08 April 2007
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i think its about time we start letting people with lower test scores and slightly out of shape bodies join the military. To me, its like this, if we were just regular animals, those people would already be dead because they were not able to survive. So what is happeneing now is that a lot of these people that are academically challenged are just sitting here on the earth taking up our natural resources and doing jack. if we throw them in infantry, with hope that they can take out a few enemies, then thats less healthy normal people that will be put in harms way. not to mention the fact that we will be able to re allocate natural resources like food water and shelter to people that can actually apply themselves and benefit America. Thats just the way i personally thought about it. kind of a sick way of thinking, but sometimes I go about my daily life and i see civilians that just sit there and do nothing with their lives to benefit their environment and it makes me sick. sick to the stomach. especially because they are just utilizing resources that could be used towards sustaining people that acutally serve a purpose in life.
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Registered: 08 March 2007
Posts: 328
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The policy seems to make sense to me, losing weight is feasible for most people, and high test scores aren't needed for lots of jobs in the military, like driving a supply truck, that takes experience and driving skill, not test scores. Also since we are having such a problem finding people to put their lives on the line that we're sending national guard and recruiters overseas it looks like we need most people we can get.
"Untutored Courage is useless in the face of educated bullets" -George Patton "I would rather be exposed to the inconveniences attending too much liberty than those attending too small a degree of it. " Thomas Jefferson |
![]() Registered: 24 January 2005
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hmmm, ever try to help a fat guy over a wall while getting shot at? ever try to carry a fat guy that is wounded? any of this sinking in to those of you that have never been there?
SEMPER FI The Gunny PROUD TO BE AN INFIDEL America is not at war. The Marines are at war, America is at the mall. |
![]() Registered: 24 January 2005
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hmmmm, perhaps the weight standards make a little more sense now? Should we have a dual set of standards, one for those that work in an office and one for those that actually have to project our nations policies via force? Is this what you guy's are recommending we do?
SEMPER FI The Gunny PROUD TO BE AN INFIDEL America is not at war. The Marines are at war, America is at the mall. |
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Registered: 08 March 2007
Posts: 328
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1. Yes I think we should have a dual set, because weight isn't a factor with paper pushing.
2. The massive excercise of being in the army would certainly go far in slimming someone out. So they wouldn't be that heavy for long 3. Having a heavy comrade is far more prefferable than none, is it not? "Untutored Courage is useless in the face of educated bullets" -George Patton "I would rather be exposed to the inconveniences attending too much liberty than those attending too small a degree of it. " Thomas Jefferson |
![]() Registered: 24 January 2005
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Ok, then the fat guy's can just lay there an bleed.
SEMPER FI The Gunny PROUD TO BE AN INFIDEL America is not at war. The Marines are at war, America is at the mall. |
"Curmudgeon"![]() Location: Washtenaw County, Michigan
Registered: 21 January 2005
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Paper pushers do not always end up sitting at a nice desk enjoying coffee. There are times (as I have witnessed) when it is necessary to put them beyond the wire because of shortages. We need troops who are fit!
"It is fatal to enter any war without the will to win it" DOUGLAS MacARTHUR, 1952 |
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Registered: 08 March 2007
Posts: 328
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1. Well if the alternative is no troops, I think we need to be less selective, beggars (which we currently are) can't be choosers.
2. Do you honestly think the amazingly tough excercise regimine that is the military can't help these people drop those pounds? "Untutored Courage is useless in the face of educated bullets" -George Patton "I would rather be exposed to the inconveniences attending too much liberty than those attending too small a degree of it. " Thomas Jefferson |
![]() Registered: 24 January 2005
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Just because our northern canuck friends have to lower thier military service entrance standards, means that we have to? I don't think so.
Yes, our exercise programs do work, however the individual has to want it to work and put forth the effort. Too many times we end up with the likes of fat arse ronald. SEMPER FI The Gunny PROUD TO BE AN INFIDEL America is not at war. The Marines are at war, America is at the mall. |
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