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Picture of patoloco
Location: Arizona
Registered: 08 May 2005
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quote:
unless your a wack job


Huddo.......

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Registered: 24 January 2005
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Just calling a spade a spade. Your the one that walked or ran away from your unit during a time of war, so if the shoe fits, then be man enough to wear it.

By the way, how's that email discharge working out so far? You really think they are gonna send your DD-214 to a yahoo.com or hotmail email address?


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Registered: 19 February 2006
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BTW, I got permission to walk away from the OCS major. Im sure they wont email me my DD-214 but they have not requested that I come in yet, im sure when they get my paper work done in a few years they will call me in to sign something. That still does not address the UCMJ question.
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if I were them, the only thing I'd be sending you via mail is anthrax. Or by email a virus.

Hmm, that gives me an idea... Wink


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Guns don't kill people...Ninjas kill people!
Registered: 08 March 2007
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Dude, Auf, first off, death threats, ESPECIALLY ones similar to terrorist attacks in the past are not cool, seriously, it's mean and makes you look like a jerk. It also makes you look extraordinarily petty for using death threats simply because you are angry about someone on a message board. I'm not gonna get on your case for throwing things like flames and insults around, but threats of anthrax mailings, that's on a different level. Seriously, it's not good to throw around threats, especially death threats. (Remember the Anthrax attacks in the early 2000's?)


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Was just giving an idea or two. The worst I'd send rubbery ronald, is an email virus. Big Grin


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Registered: 31 May 2007
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Originally posted by rppearso:
Ah so if its your opinion it does not matter if its libal to you, im sure you slander people as well. If you ever read the UCMJ non federalized guard members are not subject to UCMJ, hence im not an awol/deserter. I dont see why I would have any problems with you in person just because we have differing opinions, unless your a wack job that assults people who disagree with you in which case you would be arrested, and highly trained military personal is usually used as a sentence adder.



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Picture of Clay Allison
Location: Texas
Registered: 05 July 2007
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Back on topic, they need to draw more heavily from jobs that can be replaced by civilians and push military people from non-combat MOS's into infantry roles. We have alot of Navy, Air Force, and even Army personnel doing things civvies can do. Hire civvie contractors to do those jobs at US and non-war-zone bases and "draft" the paper pushers into combat roles. They signed up for the military, if they thought they'd never have to fight, that's what they get for being stupid.


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Location: Washtenaw County, Michigan
Registered: 21 January 2005
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Not everyone who is in a non-combat MOS shirks their duty. The current way that the Army uses their personnel is the problem and cannot be laid at the feet of the soldiers who do their duty. Remember, a helicopter mechanic may never go outside the wire but his machine does and being highly trained and experienced in that job is what is important to keep the ‘copter flying. This supports the troops on the ground.


"It is fatal to enter any war without the will to win it"
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Location: Texas
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Never once blamed the desk jockeys, supply specialists, and what-have-you for taking the job, I just said that they were a potentially valuable resource, especially the large numbers of "uniformed civillians" in the Air Force. I have a buddy that was in the Air Force Reserve until recently with a Medical Supply MOS, he'd tell you the same thing.

I also wouldn't put Helicopter Mechanics in the same category unless Bell or somebody can send over their own mechanics (which I doubt).


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They also crew the aircraft.


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Picture of Clay Allison
Location: Texas
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The mechanics do? Odd.


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Location: South Western Colorado
Registered: 24 November 2005
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Clay you also have to remember civilans can not carry a weapon so you have to furnish protection .Congress was just bitching about this Adminstration spending to much moneys on Blackwater for protection.
Registered: 19 February 2006
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Good luck getting civilians to deploy to iraq without paying them 6 figures, civilians know better.
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Location: Texas
Registered: 05 July 2007
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Originally posted by SULLY1:
Clay you also have to remember civilans can not carry a weapon so you have to furnish protection .Congress was just bitching about this Adminstration spending to much moneys on Blackwater for protection.


I mostly meant using civillians on US Bases. There are still a ton of non-combat military personnel at US airbases that could be replaced with civillians.

P.S. Dyncorp is way better than Blackwater. Blackwater are hyper-agressive crash dummies, from what I've heard.


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Clay I am not sure but I was under the imression that Blackwater was sub-contracted under Dyncorp.I had a buddy that worked both shortly after Iraq conflict started he said the same about Dyncorp.I guess it depends on who you talk to.Also I noticed when the (D)went after Blackwater it sounded like (the Bat) Sen. Waxman went after whoever was hired by the Republicans and ignored Halburten and Dyncorp because of open Contracts set down by Cliton Adminstration esp Halburten.
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Picture of HarryP
Location: Washtenaw County, Michigan
Registered: 21 January 2005
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Clay, why odd. Who do you think fixes them when they have a problem or stay over someplace without mechanics?


"It is fatal to enter any war without the will to win it"
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Picture of Clay Allison
Location: Texas
Registered: 05 July 2007
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I'm used to what I know about fixed wing aircraft and the air force. I always figured the guys with the tools were on the ground while the fighting crew had their own totally different jobs to deal with.


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