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Registered: 19 February 2006
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Wow when I saw this I would think this would make any soldier start working on there discharge

http://www.willthomas.net/Convergence/Weekly/Army.htm

This is what the nazi's were doing right before they lost the war.
Registered: 19 February 2006
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Shame on the US for persecuting its own soldiers and citizens for refusing to fight in a war when the very people of that nation are not willing to fight.
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The military and fellow soldiers could give 2 shits whether you live or die in iraq.
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IT'S BACK!!!!!!


Count it the greatest sin to prefer life to honor, and for the sake of living to lose what makes it worth living.
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Registered: 08 March 2007
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Well I'm not suprised, risking having yourself be crippled, maimed, or killed is not a pleasant thing at all, I don't think it's that suprising that it's that hard to find people for this war, especially since the president has made himself very much associated with it and not many people like him right now.


"Untutored Courage is useless in the face of educated bullets"
-George Patton
"I would rather be exposed to the inconveniences attending too much liberty than those attending too small a degree of it. "
Thomas Jefferson
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Location: Washtenaw County, Michigan
Registered: 21 January 2005
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Hyperion - you are feeding a troll and apparently becomming one. If you wish to be anti-military it might serve you better to move to a place where people of your ilk congrigate.

People will add you to their ignore list and your posts will not appear to them. If you want to discuss a subject try to remember that this is a military forum full of people who have chosen to serve.


"It is fatal to enter any war without the will to win it"
DOUGLAS MacARTHUR, 1952
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full---------->(fat ronald)


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Guns don't kill people...Ninjas kill people!
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Registered: 31 May 2007
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Location: Arizona
Registered: 08 May 2005
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The military and fellow soldiers could give 2 shits whether you live or die in iraq.


**** OFF you miserable, spineless piece of shit.
Registered: 08 March 2007
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Originally posted by HarryP:
Hyperion - you are feeding a troll and apparently becomming one. If you wish to be anti-military it might serve you better to move to a place where people of your ilk congrigate.

People will add you to their ignore list and your posts will not appear to them. If you want to discuss a subject try to remember that this is a military forum full of people who have chosen to serve.

No you moron, all I'm saying is that going into the military entails a vast amount of commitment and sacrifice, why is it so hard then to conclude that many people would be reluctant to join?


"Untutored Courage is useless in the face of educated bullets"
-George Patton
"I would rather be exposed to the inconveniences attending too much liberty than those attending too small a degree of it. "
Thomas Jefferson
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quote:
Originally posted by Hyperion:
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Originally posted by HarryP:
Hyperion - you are feeding a troll and apparently becomming one. If you wish to be anti-military it might serve you better to move to a place where people of your ilk congrigate.

People will add you to their ignore list and your posts will not appear to them. If you want to discuss a subject try to remember that this is a military forum full of people who have chosen to serve.

No you moron, all I'm saying is that going into the military entails a vast amount of commitment and sacrifice, why is it so hard then to conclude that many people would be reluctant to join?


Go to hell, you ****** scum.


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Registered: 08 March 2007
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So I'm scum for saying that it entails giving up a lot to go into the military? Even though that's a fact? How is that so offensive you hypersensitive, ugh, you're not even worth a noun.


"Untutored Courage is useless in the face of educated bullets"
-George Patton
"I would rather be exposed to the inconveniences attending too much liberty than those attending too small a degree of it. "
Thomas Jefferson
Registered: 19 February 2006
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Aufklarer is a typical military dunce. He cant formulate an intelligent rebuke to a resonable debate so he resorts to name calling because thats what works in the barracks, he can just name call and threaten violence to get people to concede, thats how the military works. So when he is dealing with rational intellegent people and has to logiclly justify a statement he cant hold his own. At least gunny, rocketeer and cavscout can formulate intellegent sentences even though they make shit up and dilute facts its better than "go to hell you scum" lol. I dont know if gunny or cavscout have even bothered to read the UCMJ but if they have they would know better than to say im an AWOL deserter since non federalized guardsmen do not fall under UCMJ juristiction just a small detail for thought. Hyperion you may not think much of me but you bring some intellegent debate to this forum.

I dont care if someone is a veteran or a staunch military supporter just back up what you say and stop making things up to justify name calling or libal. And if you ever bother to read the UCMJ gunny you will find that calling me an awol deserter is in fact libal.
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Sorry Hyperion, I accidentally clicked on the quote option of the wrong post. Was meant for fat****.

Rppearso;
I may be a typical military dunce, but at least I'm not a traitor. And I don't really name call or threaten in the barracks, you neurologically defect imbecile. As for dealing with intelligent people...You? Intelligent? What a joke...You may be a cowardly little skunk, who can't even face a bit of rough handling, but at least you still have a sense of humour, sick as it is.


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Registered: 08 March 2007
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Ah, ok, your remark seemed kinda misplaced there, no harm, no foul.


"Untutored Courage is useless in the face of educated bullets"
-George Patton
"I would rather be exposed to the inconveniences attending too much liberty than those attending too small a degree of it. "
Thomas Jefferson
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Registered: 24 January 2005
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hyperion

don't feed fat arse ronald. he's getting to be like a bad case of herpes.


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I prefer to think that the chip on my shoulder gives the monkey on my back something to play with.

I have to exercise early in the morning before my brain figures out what I’m doing.

“The Meek shall inherit the earth….after I’m through with it.”
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Location: Washtenaw County, Michigan
Registered: 21 January 2005
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Hyperion:

It might behoove you to understand people’s point of view when they talk about someone like Round Ronald who is a true example of someone educated beyond his intelligence. He is a person of no moral or ethical fortitude and to side with him is to join in his perverted point of view. Being a pompous ass about it is not very seemly and rather small minded of you. I only respond to him because it amuses me. The Gunny gets on my case about it once in a while and is completely justified in doing so.

To the question at hand: It depends on the person involved. Not everyone finds it to be such a sacrifice or a burden upon their life. A great deal of it depends on one’s feeling of what service is. I have talked to people who were in the Peace Corps who felt that it was too much to give for so little reward. Service in the military is something that has to be experienced first hand to be understood. It is not a study in intellectual reason but a real life test.


"It is fatal to enter any war without the will to win it"
DOUGLAS MacARTHUR, 1952
Registered: 19 February 2006
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Yep I experenced it first hand and I would choose intellectual reason any day over a so called "real life test". So gunny no response to the UCMJ issue? Or are you just going to continue to libal me.
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rrpearso. refresh my memory on your question about the UCMJ. And yeah, I'll continue to say what I think about you. You just need to be thankful that our interaction is via a keyboard as you would not want to ever meet with the likes of me in person.


SEMPER FI
The Gunny

PROUD TO BE AN INFIDEL
I prefer to think that the chip on my shoulder gives the monkey on my back something to play with.

I have to exercise early in the morning before my brain figures out what I’m doing.

“The Meek shall inherit the earth….after I’m through with it.”
Registered: 19 February 2006
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Ah so if its your opinion it does not matter if its libal to you, im sure you slander people as well. If you ever read the UCMJ non federalized guard members are not subject to UCMJ, hence im not an awol/deserter. I dont see why I would have any problems with you in person just because we have differing opinions, unless your a wack job that assults people who disagree with you in which case you would be arrested, and highly trained military personal is usually used as a sentence adder.
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