I'm not sure why I'm even here, I guess I'm hoping that someone can help me understand what is going on with my son He was supposed to be transfered to a new duty station, and when he finally told me that he wasn't transfering, he told me that he had done something wrong and was not going to tell me what it was. All that I know is that he is in counseling, has been put on meds for depression, and is going through some sort of investigation. He reports every couple of hrs to someone, as he has been put on a suicide watch. He tells me that his phycologist is recommending a discharge. This all happened probable 2 months ago, but he knows nothing about what is going on at this time. He does work everyday, odd jobs etc. Can anyone give me some idea of what he may have done and what is to become of him.

Not really. All I can say is to be as supportive of him as you can. The details will surface as time progresses.

Pressing the issue while he is undergoing treatment won't help him. Just let him know you are there for him to help him get through whatever it is he is dealing with.

thanks gunny, I've been doing that. How long does this process take, he's thinking it is a chapter 24.

Never heard of a chapter 24? Is that something to do with a bankrupcy?

oops, chapter 14, sorry, hit the wrong key. Misconduct.

Also, they have taken his laptop, as part of the investigation. Is it common place to have an investigation for any discharge, say drugs, theft, etc. My mind just wonders thinking the worst. But if it were really serious, whatever that could be, wouldn't he be more restricted, less freedom? He still driving his car and in his barracks. I'm so worried, I feel sick most of the day. Thanks for any speculation from you guys. I have been so proud of him for his service, now I just want to find out if he is losing his mind!

Uniform Code of Military Justice or UCMJ

Not knowing what your son is being accused of or what charges he is currently facing, I have attached a link for the laws that are applicable for all US military personnel.

Once the specific charge is know, you can look it up in here and see how it may be handled by his comand.

Bear in mind that individuals can be accused of just about anything, so that is why they hold an investigation. The investigation results will determine whether or not to move forward with official charges. I ought to know as I was investigated for a murder, a rape in nearby base housing. In both, I was cleared after a short question and answer period.

Hi Chef,

To me it sounds like your son just could not hack it. This is very shameful for some people and I can see why. There is just a percentage of the population who cannot hack military life. Cannot hack the rigor. Cannot hack the psychological issues that come along with the first year or two of duty.

For me it took two years. I hated almost every minute I lived from 6 months to 2 years in the military, and then it clicked. I realized what I had to do. I grew up.

You should support your son. Do not press him, but do not baby him. He is different now. He is probably very fragile. I hpe it all turns out well for you and him. Godspeed.

People can grow up and live productive lives without living in POW camp conditions. I agree some people need a wake up call but there are people that can hold them selves accountable and get a good education pay there bills and dont need someone waking them up at 3am to tell them something in a loud tone of voice. Alot of the rigor in the military is unnessicary and just gives people early ulsers and heart attacks, in fact I just got a letter in the mail that hypertension in national guard units is so out of control that they are sending out "awareness letters" so that soldiers can understand hypertension and what to do to avoid it, oh oh oh I know, get out of the military, humans are not robots and I dont know why the military thinks they can treat the human body like it is a robot. Then I watch the top commanders stand in front of congress and lie there butts off, human beings can not handle these excessive deployments and then catch flack from there units when they return without serious medical consequences.

Chef:

you'd be best to press' ignore' and avoid any badly spelled/poorly constructed grammar that passes for advice from reppearso..

a skimming of his ' various posts' will soon show you that he's on a one-track ride to idiocy where the military comes in...

believe it or not the military is a compassionate and fair organization when it comes to looking after its own but follows strict guidlines that may not, at first, appear to be fair and balanced for any individual 'in process '..
couple that with the glacial pace at which the military usually conducts its investigations can put a lot of stress on people...

hang in there, support your lad and, if allowed try and talk to his advocate [ if one has been assigned ] as to what limits/parameters there are on your support beyond moral/parental.. sometimes ' outside help' is allowed/preferrred when charges are laid..

I suggest that you listen to Gunny onm this and try to remain calm and focussed.. things may not be as bad as you imagine...

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Originally posted by Chef56:
I'm not sure why I'm even here, I guess I'm hoping that someone can help me understand what is going on with my son He was supposed to be transfered to a new duty station, and when he finally told me that he wasn't transfering, he told me that he had done something wrong and was not going to tell me what it was. All that I know is that he is in counseling, has been put on meds for depression, and is going through some sort of investigation. He reports every couple of hrs to someone, as he has been put on a suicide watch. He tells me that his phycologist is recommending a discharge. This all happened probable 2 months ago, but he knows nothing about what is going on at this time. He does work everyday, odd jobs etc. Can anyone give me some idea of what he may have done and what is to become of him.

Hope you get this. I've dealt with Unc Sam on these same matters. I suggest you call his "unit" and ask to speak with his Commander. If that fails, call the Chaplain at his post. Ask the same. If that also fails, call your congressman/US is best but state also works. I don't know where your son is or how long he's been in, but I can say that the military is extremely stressful and it sounds as though he's pending a medical discharge of some sort. Peace.

I agree with renner, check with his chain of command,post chaplin. See if that does any good. Be gentle with him till you learn what is going on give all the support you can.

He will probably go to Ft.Sill for about 2 weeks then get dishonarably discharged unless hes under adjudication I.E. article 15's.