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Don't let your mind wander -- it's too little to be let out alone.

hmmm, so now its essentially, 'lets build a big wall around our country and hide behind it until they try to get in'

Only for the national guard, thats why its called NATIONAL gaurd and not international guard. There suppost to stay in state in case shit hits the fan in our own back yard while the active duty are playing in the sand 12,000 miles away.

We have more than enough National Guardsmen and women to perform those tasks, and supplement the active duty types overseas at the same time. Believe it or not, those in the military and in the Guard, are there because they want, and need to be there. A National Guardsman died here in Yuma over the weekend. She wasn't from Arizona, but here she was. She was protecting our borders from all those you fear.

There's great value to thier contribution to the nation. These men and women are dedicated to the nation and are willing to place thier lives in harms way so that you can sit in here and continue your feeble attempts to keep out the few and the proud. You are in debt to these men and women whether you agree or not.

Everyone is in debt to everyone. I work as an engineer in oil and gas, so without fuel none of the machines the military uses would go anywhere even the fancy M-1 battle tanks and F-22's use gas. I joined the national guard for one weekend a month and 2 weeks a year and for the occasional rescue during an avalanche or disaster not to be told to deploy somewhere I dont want to go against my will for months or years at a time, or to be treated as anything but a professional. I dont care what rank I am wearing I have a very technical and very professional degree and I expect to be treated accordingly, I should not have been thrown into the mix of privates, that was a mistake on the guards part not my'n

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"Oh dear, I think you'll find reality's on the blink again." -- Marvin The Paranoid Android

rppearso: I am not sure you could be any more moronic that you currently are but you have proven me wrong on this point before. Your degree does not mean a thing in the military because it is useless to it in any functioning way. Considering your deep-thought abilities and writing skills, you are lucky that you made it in at all.

Even if rppearso had stayed in the "guard" he would have still bitched and moaned if they sent him to do a search and rescue operation because of an avalanche or done some disaster relief in NO after Katrina. Why should he be told to do something so low as help people who live in poverty anyways in NO? He's above that. Why should he be told to help in a search and rescue operation to find avalanche survivors? They shouldn't have been there in the first place. Why should rrpearso be inconvenienced by all of this? He's too good for that.

I'm sure just the one weekend a month and 2 weeks a year commitment was too much for him. Let alone the other commitments he spoke of. LOL.

I joined the guard to fly and for state assistance in disasters not to fight in forign wars. And most of my posts have anything to do with getting the job done they have to do with the military mentality. Its not about flying in to get someone out of an avalance, its about having to listen to a staff sgt whine and cry about how my hair is out of regs or my boots arnt shinny enough, it gets old.

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Spelling is a lossed art.

It's not the only thing that's getting old....

hey you know patoloco, it takes even less effort to not respond at all to anything I post on.

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"You must have an IQ of at least half a million." -- Popeye

I should call this TXARNG guy out on his email address to come and answer hard questions that he is avoiding.

My guess, he's really not interested in anything you have to say. He put his email address out there and waiting for serious inquiries. In the meantime, his topic keeps getting bumped by our discussion, why bother responding to you? He's probably put a feeler out on several different forums, just like you have scattered your crap throughout some other forums (and got banned at least once).

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Ronald P Pearson in the flesh.

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After scouring this site for a thread that rrpearso hadn't hijacked , I thought, ' what the hell' I'll just post an inappropriate and off topic response here..as its as good a place as any..

I want to apologize to rrpearso.. throughout the many topics, discussions and debates across this forum he has been consistent - if a bit repetitive - in voicing his belief that the US military is a repressive, autocratic and beligerant entitiy out to subvert his aspirations to develop as an individual and make something of himself by not conforming to the government's attempts to mould him into a slave to its imperialistic world conquering aspirations...

I made the great error of assuming that, while I did my military service under the authority of a ' foreign service ', the US military establishment and training operations would mirror the standard military training methods endorsed, with minor variations, by most western countries...

obviously from rrpearso's many protestations and detailed, repetitive pleadings for understanding.. it has become clear to me that the US military operates on a completely different methodology and philosophy of learning...

while other militaries respect and extoll the efforts of their officer candidates to acquire experience to complement their academic learning and striving toward leadership..it is obviously the policy of the US military to destroy the individual before building him/her up into a pre-conceived ideal of what the American fighting machine should be...

Obviously my country's methods for turning out officers is inferior and is reflected in the fact that Canada is a medium weight non-first strike nation beholden to America for the defence of the North American continent all because we don't follow the US pattern of denigrating, demeaning, abusing and curtailing the civil liberties of its citizens in order to make them mean, hard uncompromising bloody thirsty savage killers of third world peoples...

I commend rrpearso for refusing to bend to the pressure and to remain true to himself as a mellow flower sniffing engineer who only wanted to build habitats for small furry animals and fly nice little planes on Sunday afternoons for the pleasure to be gained from touching the sky in the company of chirping birds...

My eyes have been opened to the reality of my training and I am embarrassed that I let the sadistic sgts and other instructors break my spirit and that I naively bought into the system and actually allowed them to present me with a commission and - gasp - promote me up the ranks..when I should have screamed to my attorneys and the human rights tribunal, the military ombudsman and the press over the coercive and medieval methods used to turn me into an unthinking militaristic automoton bent on destroying benign regimes in other parts of the world to make it easier for giant amoral multinationals to exploit the people and their resources..

there....I've said it ... I feel so much better...

BTW, thank you harryP, I did not even know that I had a profile up still after I got married, so I terminated it. I thought I got all of them but I guess not.

I experenced the attempt to destroy the individual part but not the build back up part, they must have run out of time for that part in basic. I dont disagree that what you described is the lifestyle for some, but not for all and thoes that join that learn its not for them are not allowed to quit is the part that I have a problem with.

Thats the simple question, if someone does not want to be there why cant they just quit? Someone said its like asking why is the US communist, which does not make anysense.

Its a mentality conditioning thing. Never heard the saying that 'quitters never win'?

Besides its also a contractual and monetary issue. Do you honestly think that boot camp and training costs no money? That's not the governments money, its the peoples money, and they (those in charge) are mandated and required to ensure they get the most bang for the buck. What I don't understand Ronald, why you have such a difficult time with this basic premise?

I guess I just have a hard time trying to grasp the concept of forcing people to stay in that dont want to be there, when there level of effort is directly propotional to how much they want to be there. I understand if they get a bounus or what ever they have to pay it back. I see the cost of basic as the cost of doing buisness, you have to expect attrition, and I dont think that forcing people to stay in that are going to put out a very low level of effort is a good way to try to curve that attrition. But I guess it works if you put enough fear in people through exagerations of the truth (which is a lie) or through extended time periods of degraded quality of life (ie being recycled in basic) but then it becomes an ethical issue and the military is always claiming honor. How can you be honorable when you grossly exagerate the truth (to the point that its a lie) or to recycle someone back through a program, when the nature of the program was what made them want to quit to begin with to a private that wants to get out (ie your going to levenworth yada yada)