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Registered: 07 May 2007
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We are considering my husband joining the military, he is looking at the Air Force and Army as either a Paralegal or a Cryptologic Linguist. What should my concerns be while going through this process? What are the chances that someone with that sort of specialty will be deployed? How is the insurance, housing, bonuses etc. Just looking for some constuctive answers
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Gina,

Your husband signs up, he's going to go to boot camp for a set number of weeks, the exact number depends on which service he joins. Only real concern is staying in touch with him. I doubt they'll let him keep his cell phone if you know what I mean. In the Marines, we weren't even allowed to use the phone to call home, but we were allowed to send letters, so thats what we did. Mail call was generally the highlight of everyones day. (dear john letters not withstanding)

His recruiter should be able to fill you in on all the particulars about the benefits for him and you and any children if any.

Deployed? As far as I know, deployment is part of the military no matter what branch of service. If not with orders to overseas duty, then orders into the area of operations where we are fighting. Or he could stay stateside for more training. Be aware though, the govt is going to want to get some use out of all that training at some point.


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Don't know if there are any additional benefits to paralegal, but crypto-linguists can get anywhere from $100-$700...or maybe higher now, in foreign language proficiency pay (FLPP). Skill at the language and number of languages will determine amount. If he's sent to language school (which he will, unless he already speaks a language), means more training in the states, 8 months to 2 years at the school. Deployments? Definitely, probably many. Linguists are in short supply, which means bonuses are offered and are pretty good (though not sure if there is a sign-up bonus, there's definitely re-enlistment bonuses). Insurance, housing, etc. are the same no matter what job you have.
Registered: 19 February 2006
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Air Force crypto linguest = army check point guard (or fill in fancy MOS).

I had an article but I deleted it. And to no surprise they used the signed on the dotted line argument (the dumb mans way of not having to justify there actions, oh well you signed up so there, yea that shows your intelegence) to put air force people at army check points doing jobs they had no bussness making them do.

Be ready for him to be gone for at least 6 months at a time up to 24 months.
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The troll dung is a growing pile of stink!


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http://www.military.com/NewsContent/0,13319,132397,00.html

I found it, for HarryP's reading delight. It is looking like the stink is comming from HarryP for attempting to discredit me by name calling. Notice the very last sentence in the article, lol. Thats the military way, oh your not doing what you signed up for and were not paying you (thats another article) oh well, lets all say it together "you signed on the dotted line" what a joke how can anyone respect the US military when they operate in such a dispicable manner. This all boils down to top commanders not standing up to congress and the president to start the draft to fill these positions, once you start a trend of distrust towards an institution it will take you years if not an entire generation to regain that trust, when I sign up to do X and go to Y I expect just that and when you BS people around it builds resentment and throwing the dotted line BS in there face only makes that resentment worse.

Think hard about joining the military, your husband may turn out to go through his military experence without any problems but when the BS rains in the military it pours and it can put your entire life into chaos and it is happening more and more these days as the military struggles to fill politcally correct positions because of there avoidance of collateral damage from within the existing ranks regardless of MOS to preserve the politicians carrers by avoiding a draft which would put the congress democratic enough to override a presidential veto. When Joe millionares son is drafted out of harvard (of course they have to wait 6 to 12 months due to the whole education thing but not until graduation unless there a graduating senior) you will see people take notice even more so than now, the little bit higher taxes from democrates will be worth it to stay out of iraq.
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Ronald, you will never be more than a limp wristed panty waist to most of the people at this site so get over it.

I know for a fact that you were kicked off of military.com and I am also a member there. We at least let you speak.

You cannot cover the smell of troll dung no matter how hard you try.


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They kicked me off of military.com pretty fast too but yet it took 2 years to get out of the guard (and im still waiting for my paperwork that was suposedly signed 2 months ago) so go figure. How much sence does that make. Also that article was straight out of military.com, anything to say or is it all made up hog wash.
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You do not understand the military well enough to know that some things happen, always have and always will.


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DOUGLAS MacARTHUR, 1952
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Thank you for being honest HarryP, this is what you can expect when you join the military and HarryP did not deny it. Oh you got stop lossed, oh well you signed the dotted line. You dont like the MOS we repicked for you, oh well you signed on the dotted line. These "some things that happen" happen much more frequently in the military than anywhere else and the military has skewed the statistics of "shit happens" to "shit happens regularly" in the military. So you are forwarned, if he still chooses to go in I can't say much because I made the same foolish decision, my only hope is that others may learn from my mistake.
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hmmm, not to go awol?


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Ronald in the first place Military.com is not Military you sure got a lot of beefs .You are trying to diss the whole World.






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I dont condone going AWOL and I am not AWOL (hence no arrest warrent or threat of arrest warrent) my mistake was joining in the first place.

Military.com is made up of significant military so if they banned me why does the "military" try to retain people like me? It does not make a whole lot of sence.
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Your troll dung status is growing.


"It is fatal to enter any war without the will to win it"
DOUGLAS MacARTHUR, 1952
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Here is some yet more news of our so called honorable military at work:

http://www.alternet.org/waroniraq/43611/?page=1
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You post that yet choose to ignore the good stuff. Typical troll
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Crap, now you made me hit "show post".....

OK, Round Ron let's read the article. Let's read the Comments made of that article.....

quote:

Sgt Ronald Stroh

Posted by: mrny838 on Jan 18, 2007 7:04 PM

I personaly served with these people. I cannot sit by and listen to soldiers like gomes and vanderpool complain about how they were treated when the only reason they joined the army was for there own selfish reasons. When our country finally asks these men to give back, they are instantly not capable of being a soldier anymore. All Gomes did was complain about everything, refused to perform his duties, and cry about his internet connection in his trailer, where he spent %90 of his entire tour in iraq, while the rest of us risked our lives for eachother. Vanderpool was in the same situation as Gomes. The major difference is Vanderpool had a longer service record. No one in our command was perfect, but the fact remains, you do your job like everyone else. Vanderpool was planning to get out on disability so he could collect a check for the rest of his life and he was willing to take it as far as he had to to get it. I will forward this to the rest of the unit and you can hear from most of the guys who were with these men, and then you will get a clearer picture of there credibility.

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The comments for this story have been closed. Thank you to everyone that participated.


Now, why would they do that?
Registered: 19 February 2006
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Im sure your right patoloco and I have no reason to doubt you, but my beef was with the fact that the military went to the ends of the earth to retain these people who wanted out, they could have simply admin discharged them and made them pay back there bounuses or what ever other financial restitution. That is a sick way to treat people regardless of the individuals moral compass. That has been my issue with the military the entire time I have been in the gaurd and on this forum and no one has been able to answer the question of

WHY THE MILITARY INSISTS ON RETAINING PEOPLE WHO DONT WANT TO BE THERE. AND IF/WHEN THEY FINALLY LET THEM GO THEY FEEL THEY HAVE TO MAKE AN EXAMPLE OF THEM BY GIVING THEM AN OTH. How can one have respect for an institution that spitefully makes examples of people with the intent to ruin there lives. Just because someone makes the mistake of joining and wants out does not mean they should branded across there forhead, they broke no moral law by not wanting to serve it was simply a poor choice and spitefully implementing paper work that will haunt that individual for the rest of there lives is not only dishonorable but deplorable.
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Registered: 20 June 2006
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The military isnt here to please people who join it. It is a voluntary enlistment or commission. Just because people join, go through the training and then decide they would prefer to not work doesnt mean the military should allow them to get out.

When you sign the contract you agree to serve for X number of years. Why is that so hard for people to understand?
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