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Registered: 19 February 2006
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I may not be the CEO of a company and I do have alot to learn, but one thing I do know is that I have never seen someone act crazy in any way shape or form in the buisness world, does it happen probably, but the one doing the yelling and making abusive comments is the one who is going to look like an idiot and the others around you most likely wont tolerate that type of behavior very long and its a great way to loose clients. Where in the military the drill sergant is the master and all his little slave privates just have to take his BS. So if you are in a company where yelling and verbal abuse are accepted you have one foot in a court room already. Im trying to think... were you a project controller and is that similar to a corporate controller? We have some cool guys where I work that are project controllers doing budget and schedule stuff. Im learning alot as I work and that is the whole point of the 4 years of experence to get a PE im working on that experence and even after your a PE you still work in a group to support each other (with out the crazy abusive behavior).
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Location: Washtenaw County, Michigan
Registered: 21 January 2005
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A corporate controller is the top accountant or second to a corporate officer called the chief financial officer (if there is one) – your corporate ignorance is a true abyss – oh, I already said that.


"It is fatal to enter any war without the will to win it"
DOUGLAS MacARTHUR, 1952
Registered: 19 February 2006
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Ok thats fine, what does being a CFO or related position have to do with condoning hazing. There are people that went to vietnam and came back and became doctors, that has nothing to do with the unethical treatment.
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Location: Germany
Registered: 14 February 2006
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So E-6s, Staff Sergeants, are going to be marginally employed or homeless? What a shock! To think most of the E-6s I know, have degrees, and 5+ years experience in their field, and get hired like it is going out of style.

Most people avoid getting yelled at by doing what they are told, how they are told, when they are told. When you can't follow simple instructions (which all the military's instructions are) you will get yelled at, because you obviously don't understand simple English at a conversational volume.

Cry lawsuit if you are spoken to harshly or have to do the menial labor involved with making the corporate machine work. Good plan, fastest way to getting fired I know of. You are under the impression that business is compassionate and there are some ethics involved at all levels. Enron didn't think so, Microsoft didn't, Arthur Andersen didn't, Allied Signal didn't, Lockheed-Martin didn't, when they crushed millions of their employees lives through layoffs, trust violations, insider trading, etc. Because it is UNETHICAL to make your employees homeless and hopeless, is minor, but it is more PROFITABLE to do it that way. That bottom line is important, more important than any employee. I think Rocketeer says it best...

"When money talks, few fail to listen."


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Registered: 19 February 2006
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Thats funny I dont ever remember any instructions given at a conversational volume. It was extremely loud and boarder line unentelegable, and the louder and faster they talked the more it was not understandable. And you pretty much proved my point, when companies do things like you described there are consequecnes for them but not the military (unless it is so extreme that they are forced to act to save face). You are right about military members getting jobs, but they better leave the crazyness at the base gate exit. Lay offs are much different than having an employee that likes to act like a nut job (drill sergants, etc) in the office. I have no problem working with military people, I have a problem working with crazy people, military or not
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Location: Arizona
Registered: 08 May 2005
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I have the same problem! Man, I'm glad I don't work with you! Wink drill
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Location: Washtenaw County, Michigan
Registered: 21 January 2005
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Like The Gunny said, the young man is stuck on stupid.

This is a dead subject for me because it is only allowing him to express his unending ignorance about the world around him with full throttle arrogance.


"It is fatal to enter any war without the will to win it"
DOUGLAS MacARTHUR, 1952
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