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Registered: 12 June 2006
Posts: 2
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I know I may get the answer in a few weeks in a month or so...But, just wanted to know what everyone's opinion is..cause I know recruiters frequent these forums...
Basically, trying to join the air force...made some mistakes in my young past..and I have two counts of domestic assault, which were dismissed without trial, and an attempted burgulary which was dismissed after a pre-trial diversion(probation) not sure if this was a felony or misdeamnor, but he(the recruiter) has gotten me started on the moral waiver (the three references).. When I went to the ARMY recruiter, he didn't mention waivers, but mention some Luthenberg Law, even though they were dismissed, and stated that he would have to talk with his surperior who was out at the time, and just deceided to see if the AF could work for me from that point on... Also, do all the branches use the same waiver process, like should I keep the references I get, in case, the AF waiver doesn't go through... At least the recruiter, believes I am something to work with, I am working with one outside my city, because the one in my city, didn't even want to work deal me, when he found out I have exczema... Yet, when I was about to join the Navy, a couple of years ago, when I was graduating high school, I went to MEPS, and they was able to waive the exzcema, since it is not severe... Just took the ASVAB, a few days ago, and the line scores of the AF range from 71 to 78, and the AFQT is a 74, and at least 20 college credits, which the recruiter states will help the moral waiver... One last thing, I am married, yet he stated that he would have to do a credit check, since I am married (Why is this credit check, needed?) So, just two days ago, I filed for a divorce, I have yet to tell the recuiter about the divorce which I believe may hinder the recruiting process, since everything has happened in less than one week, from the inital conversation, to the ASVAB test, to the divorce filing... One last thing, when I was younger, about 18, I got depressed, and had suicidal tendacies, but was never put on medication, cause the person I talked to clarified it as 'situational depression', but I don't plan to tell the military about this part in my life... One last thing, what the the jobs do not require a security clearance, because with my past, I doubt I may be getting one, if I get in that is... Just want an opinion on pretty much everything.. |
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Registered: 12 June 2006
Posts: 2
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This is the best advice I'm received and thought it would help someone out there, also...
AF and Navy standards are higher when it comes to things like this. Why? They don't need the people the Army does. If you can't qualify, there are 10 more waiting to take your place. Keep copies of ALL of your paperwork. If the AF recruiter is actually taking the time to work with you, that's a good sign... they are the worst (or best) at telling you to shove off if they see no hope. Be prepared to wait.. wait and wait more. Also be prepared to call your recruiter about once or twice a week and keep a fire light under him. The credit check is required because of national security. If you have bad credit, you are more susceptible to taking bribes, some jobs require you to see and handle sensitive information. This isn't a risk the military wishes to take. Tell your recruiter about your divorce, he'll need to know anyway. As to your medical/psychological history .. it is your choice not to tell. If you choose to not disclose the information, I would highly suggest you stay away from any jobs that will require a security clearance of secret and above. They will find out, and you will be discharged. Medical history is touchy, sometimes they find out .. sometimes they don't. If you choose to mark "no" .. then you will say "no" to that question for the rest of your enlistment. Change your answer at any time, and they will discharge you. Remember that. Often times the key is in finding the right recruiter. If the AF says no, try the Army, if the Army says no.. try another Army recruiter and so on. The National Guard is also known for working miracles for guys with less than clean histories but are on the right track now. |
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Registered: 19 March 2009
Posts: 1
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i just need to know if i can join the military(which branches) with a d.v. misdameanor on my record?i have completed term of prob and will be off it in May. i have HS diploma i went to meps took comp test and physical, marines offered aviation machanical mos's i still got that paperwork too. oh yea BTW reason i didnt join 1st time was a chick. biggest mistake of my life, anyways 3 yrs later i just need and want to know who would take me thanks for your time
ps: i am really a determined guy and this could help my life |
![]() Registered: 24 January 2005
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Everyone makes mistakes growing up. Some of these have far reaching effects that one can't foresee and had no way of knowing. So lets examine some of these recorded mistakes and deal with them honestly here. I see two counts of domestic violence, one count of attempted burgalry, and at some point clinical depression and suicidal attempt. Now all this is behind you and you are looking to make a change in your life via military service.
As for the way I am listing these events, theres no denying they occurred even if they weren't prosecuted right? That's what you are dealing with cut and dried. They happened. Can't talk your way around them. Whatever you do, do not lie about them. Take ownership of them. Marital status, divorce procedures. Credit checks. These all have direct bearing on serving in the military today. Someone going through a divorce while also going through enlistment process is not recommended at any level or any branch that I am aware of. You must get that settled and behind you before you embark on this path. In short, they won't let you out of boot camp to attend a divorce proceeding. That goes over well with the judge...ya think? Not to mention the raking over the coals you'll get if it proceeds without you. Credit questions and issues must be addressed. If you don't this tells us that you are not someone who is responsible.... period. If you can't show the military that you are responsible individual now, then how the heck are you going to convince the military that they should be trusting you with lives, equipment, information and such? That's the reason for performing credit checks. I'm not saying you HAVE TO HAVE GOOD CREDIT to join, but you must display effort to be paying off your financial commitments and are in contact with all organizations that you owe money to. If you aren't doing that now, then you better get on the ball and get to it. You made that commitment when they made that loan or provided those services. Its on you to fulfill your obligations. The choices you make regarding situations such as these defines you as a person. Medical issues. Apply for the waiver for the skin disorder. I do advise you to always disclose everything up front so that it won't come back to haunt you. Remember, once you tell a lie, you have to remember that lie for the rest of your life, or fess up to it at some point because it will come back on you. Lies always come back to you at some point. If you haven't experienced that fact of life yet, you just ain't lived long enough yet. Not trying to lecture or judge you in my response. You asked and there it is. I sincerily wish you well in your endeavor, sorry to hear about the divorce issues. Let us know how it turns out for you with your dealing with the recruiters. SEMPER FI The Gunny PROUD TO BE AN INFIDEL America is not at war. The Marines are at war, America is at the mall. |
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