The problem with that is, I dont want to expose myself to more needless hazing and/or harrasment. Unless I can just go to S1 and have the paperwork drawn up, im not going back to the hardliners. So im guessing that after several years my paperwork will be processed for discharge.

Dude,I'm not sure you know it,but the gentlemen on this forum are being very gracious and helpful to you.Gunny has given you much valuable advice.Harry and Gunny PL have also given calm rational logic to your views.
This from "hardliners",as you might say.
Try to remember this when you go off on your "the military is out to screw you,'cause they did me" diatribe.
Enjoy the holiday.

Oh I know and I know that what they are saying is acurate in this regard. However I am way to paranoid to go back on base unless it is to get my discharge from a JAG or some other sort of indiferent thrid party and turn in my ID, I dont really feel like being chewed out or the like and since it has been 6 months and nothing has happened we will see what happens at 1 year. If they werent such shit heads on base I wouldent have as much of a problem with following the advice given to me.

Fine by me if you want this hanging over your head. Have you given any thought to the next time you get stopped by a traffic cop and they run your name? You might be surprized when they slap the cuffs on you and detain you long enough to turn you over to the federal authorities....

Damn Gunny, now he knows!

I have never been pulled over my entire life, if I were and they put cuffs on me I would sue them for excessive force since I am not guilty or even a suspect for any civilian crimes. They could just walk me in to the guard base and I will tell them the same thing I told them before, im not going to come here of my own free will because i am affraid for my saftey and I would immediatly want to talk to a lawyer.

Also since I was between basic and OCS the ones responsible for me were OCS, and since they have formally relased me no one else is responsible for me since I am not apart of any unit so there is no one to report me as being gone since OCS knows im gone.

Once my contract expires my paperwork will have to come across someones desk for processing.

BOY,do you have a freaking clue about REAL life?
You'll sue the cops for "excessive force" for puting cuffs on you?
If your name is on the BOLO (Be On the Lookout)
the cuffs are going on and rightly so.And a trip to the local jail.Wheee,won't that be an eye opener.
Ah shit man,I'm peeing up a rope.You won't listen to Gunny or Harry,men that KNOW!
Good luck to you.

So I will go to jail for a few days and have to go back to OCS? When im way out of shape and refuse to fall into line even after basic why would they want to keep me there? What benifit am I that they would want to arrest me to make me come back in, and remember they can only make me come back in one weekend a month.

NO, they can send you active duty (full time) for up to 24 months if they choose. This happened to an acquaintance of mine (and, yes, this was a Reservist). He said he chose the 24 months over jail time, but I'm not sure if that was entirely true. I do know he was in deserter status and did not turn himself in. He was pulled over for a traffic violation. Or, you could do some community service on parole. IF you're a deserter, you broke the law. You're going to be arrested, you're going to wear cuffs, and sueing won't do a damn thing. Cuffs are used for the officer's protection, there's no "excessive force" involved. Don't be such a wuss.
If you turn yourself in, they're more likely to be lenient.

I wonder what the statute of limitations is? There is a statute of limitations on everything but murder.

Reserves can do that because its federal, but guard is state unless the unit is federalized, unit not individual. The guard does not have the resources to force someone to active guard and if they did it would piss alot of people off because alot of people want to be full time guard.

Thank goodness I dident join federal otherwise I would be saying heil bush or risk persicution, sig heil. And we pretend like we are better than the rest of the world.

Even if I were forced full time guard that does not change the fact that I am out of shape and "ate up" and I can keep the weight on, and at this point between the weight, the medical issues and my unwillingness to do anything but drag my feet it would not be worth it to try to force me into line, considering I cant even wear a uniform anymore so I would have to wear civilian clothes or have custom very large BDU's made. I guess I could still fit my PT's since the pants stretch. I would probably have a heart attack on a 2 mile run or ruck march and that would be way more expensive than my ancle injury for the VA.

We will see what happens.

You gotta be shittin me! You turned yourself into an unhealthy fat slob to avoid being in the military after the fact? You're such a contradicting POS. You say you fear for your safety around these supposed "hazers" yet you'll make yourself unhealthy and fat which in turn will probably kill you. Do us a favor and choke on a chicken bone. I can see it now, you're gonna be a burden to society very soon. I'd rather the gov't pay for your funeral now than to waste away hundreds of thousands on social security because you can't roll your fatass out of bed. You're ridiculous, no really you are.

my, what a fine little cocoon you have woven for yourself. Are you sure you don't have a little bit of schizoid running around in that brain housing?

Your references to our Commander in Chief and President are exceedingly offensive to me.

Oh My oh my.. rrpearso..

what a tangled web you weave..

I'll concede that your experience in the military [ brief as it was ] was not what you expected or not as they had presented to you in the glossy brochure...I'll concede that you perceived the ' toughening up' and ' military mindset infusion ' as ' hazing ', I'll even concede that, in your wide-eyed innocence you could, by a big stretch of the imagination, infer that this training was ' harrassment, indoctrination and abuse '...

but for you to suggest that your contitutional rights were violated, that you were tortured in a manner akin to those unfortunates in Afghanistan and Iraq, to suggest, even remotely, that you were singled out for physical and mental anguish just short of a ritual beheading at the personal order of the Fuerer, Dubya, himself...goes beyond comprehension and into the realm of mental instability..

I'm hoping this is a byproduct of your nutritional imbalance brought on by the physical self-abuse you allude to in your effort to avoid military service...

I don't know what the rules, regs and parameters are in the US NG or Army but, up here in the CF, deliberate attempts at ' self-mulitation ' [ and that includes such dietary abuse as you suggest, along with body piercing,drug use, etc. etc..] is grounds for court-martial similar to dereliction of duty...

By admitting that you deliberately set out to prevent yourself from fulfilling your obligation by harming yourself, you are admitting guilt and are subject to a disciplinary action..It wouldn't surprise me if they had you incarcerated in a hospital prison ward under a psychiatric ticket...

given the way Bush has his minions trolling the web for insurectionist elements, subversives and others out to undermine the integrity of the USA, I'd be more careful as to what you admit to on this or any forum.. you're digging yourself a niche in the hoosegow for sure..

Have you looked outside lately? that black SUV parked down the street with the funny antennae? that ' cable repair truck ' on the other side of the road?.. The guy up the utility pole seems awful slow in making repairs..next time you go to Walmart watch if that Mr Slushy truck tails you....

any bets that he's looking at cops a little differently now?

im not really that paranoid, and the fact that what you describe happens supports the hitler reference to bush. The fact that I could theoreticly be arrested for not wanting to be in the military supports the hitler reference to bush. Ah dereliction of duty another great buzz phrase if you will, I almost forgot about that one, leave it to the military to come up with phrases to make something sound way more melodramatic than it really is (ie apathy or incometance would have sufficed). And yes going back to the military base is a lagitimate fear for my safety especially after all of your testimonys.

Ain't nothing theoretic about it. You can and probably will get arrested for walking away from your committment. Sooner or later, you'll encounter one of those folks who actually follow the letter and intent of the law, have the ability to enforce the law and you'll find yourself in a bad situation.

So instead of being charged with dereliction of duty, you'd prefer to be charged with incompetence? This coming from one that wanted to be a pilot?

We already know he's incompetent. I'd hate to hear this idiot actually make sounds come out of his mouth. I can also confidently say, that even if he was given the opportunity to fly multi-million dollar fighter jets in the AF, Navy or Marines, he would have washed out before API. He gives up too easily, cries when he doesn't get his way, and runs away from his problems. He isn't military material, and I'm glad he wasn't put into any leadership position to put some poor unfortunate souls at risk of death or injury because of his poor decision making skills. rppearso, I hope they prosecute you to the fullest extent of the law and the UCMJ. It's time to grow up and it's way past due for you to "face the music".

rppearso is a slubberdegullion of unequalled proportions.