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Registered: 16 September 2007
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what do you think about it as a rifle?
good bad??
is it on the civilian market?
how much does it go for if it is not on the civilian market.
would it still be legal to own if i had one and it was not on the civilian market?

how much would it go for if it is on the civilian market.
i cannot find it anywhere.
Registered: 19 June 2007
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its illegal cuz its select-fire (semi-auto,burst ,fullatuo) remember the assault weapons ban? well its an assault weapon
you might be in luck if there is a civilian model produced (semi-auto only) but until then just AR's m1a's and Sl8's for assault rifle style guns (and ak 47 but imo dont waste your moeny on one)


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Registered: 08 March 2007
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1. I think it's a stupid idea to try and buy one as it can't do anything for civillians that other legal guns can. And no they are not legal.
2. As a rifle I think it is one of the best in the world, a reliable erganomic design by arguably the best military in the world, the Israelis.


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Registered: 28 January 2008
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Acually there is a Civilian version of the TAR-21 (Simi-Auto Only)...but it isn't imported into the USA. There is a site in Canada taking orders for $3,000 a pop (Ouch!)

http://www.canadaammo.com/
Registered: 19 February 2006
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Maybe we will start to be able to get some HK rifles through canada pretty soon.
Location: WV
Registered: 12 December 2007
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I would burn every dollar i had before i would give one cent to HK

They have had a long standing policy of only selling handguns to the American market and the only reason they are looking to "grace us with the "privilege" of the 416 is solely because the military doesnt want anything to do with it.

Combine that with their crappy customer support not only to civilians but departments too... No thanks they can keep their overpriced over hyped garbage
Registered: 19 February 2006
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Good point, but for some reason I cant help but be drawn in, at least until I see the price tag, even if they were avalible it is unlikely I would spend 3K just for a stock HK91, I did buy a PTR-91 and they are great, put in a claw mount and a nice scope for less than 2K. If you dont want a 416 look into a LWRC or the colt 1020 im guessing colt is going to drop the ball on the 1020 at the february shot show so I will likely go with the LWRC gas piston rifle. I wish there were a way to convert my PTR-91 to gas piston, cleaning guns is such a pain in the ass.
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