I was usn back when i was 18, i got entry level seperation (was released from basic) due to the following: ERRONEOUS ENTRY, RE-4

.... Now I am in the process of being hired by a fire department and I'm trying to figure out if this will cause any complications, if anyone has info on how RE-4 affects hiring of govt jobs I would greatly appreciate it. Thank you.

You could probably try google or ask a JAG officer to see if the government entity discriminates. Of course if you can prove they dident hire you because of a RE code you could probably claim discrimination, of course thats about as hard to prove as an employer not hiring someone because they were in the guard. If you are qualified and have a solid beefy resume you shouldent have a problem. If you dont get the job you should be able to inquire specific reasons why you did not get the job, just be polite and ask if you need to work on better interview skills etc and find out exactly what it was that caused you to not get the job. You may be able to manipulate them into telling you it was an RE code and then you have a solid lawsuit. I think RE codes are jacked up, if an RE code put me on the street, I may have to consider educating certian persons on how to make extremely efficient IED's (a 5 gallon drum of astrolite G would do the trick), what goes around comes around. Its all about your qualitiy of living and when the military diliberatly sabatoges your employablility then they are getting whats comming to them thats the way I see it.

dbrow:

Although the Re-Entry Code of 4 prohibits reenlistment, it itself is not a bearing on employment, EVER. The SPD, Separation Program Designator Code will, on the other hand. It is the specific reason for your departure from the military. I deal with them everyday.

rrpearso: Well, you got a job, so I'm sure your RE code didn't keep you from getting a job. So rather than be a shithouse lawyer to someone else about lawsuits, try letting the experts speak on it. You have about as much legal experience as you do military, which is nil. Real funny telling an active duty military person, whether inadvertently or not, how to make IEDs is pretty stupid. And by pretty, I mean extremely. Maybe you'd like a lesson in IT systems track people online and how the Patriot Act can throw a slackjaw like yourself in Gitmo, and show you what a poor quality of life is. Joking about IEDs? Oooh. Real clever. Idiot. Think before you post something like that on a forum with military personnel in it, 'cause I know a lot of people in government entities that would love some substantial threat tracking work. And for the LAST time, use a SPELL CHECK or something Mr. Professional! Spelling was covered in all that "education" you received.

so im a slackjaw, but its ok for the military to hook people up with negitive RE codes or OTH's. So you can do it but if the other guy tries to get even god forbid that. And last time I checked there is nothing illegal about posting anything, no matter how much you disagree with it. I think its funny that the military likes to "hook" people up and then expects no repurcussions for it. And you gotta do what you gotta do to pay the bills and if your RE code drives you into less than reputable professions shame on the military for diliberatly putting you at a disadvantage just because they wanted to teach you a lesson and "hook" you up. Yea the patriot act a great way to strip our rights, it will be bushes little claim to fame in the history books along with the solomon act what a joke. You track down thoes conspirisy theorists oh yea because you a big man.

In the first place rppearso the Military is not to blame for the Qualifaction failure of a person they have the best schools in the world .Usualy if a person is not ask to re-up he is a screw-up and refuses to change.If you are kicked out of Boot either you are medical un-fit or physical un-fit Esp. a USN Boot.

the separation code is JFC, (JFC - Enlisted/reenlisted/extended/inducted in error/ Erroneous Enlistment or Induction)

dbrow:

JFC shouldn't be a hinderance. If its erroneous induction/enlistment, its either an error in the contract itself, or it is something that was not documented that would have changed your eligibility for enlistment. It isn't really clear on whether or not there is fault or blame to place on any one source, it could be a combination of things. It is purely classified as an INVOLUNTARY REFRAD/TRANSFER?DISCHARGE. So it was out of your hands, no need to worry.

Ahh its not an RE code I was up in arms about its the SPN or spin codes.

If you received a RE: 4 it is unwaiverable and to change it you must apply for correction to military or naval records. There are time limits involved. Navy/Marines go before the Naval Discharge Review Board which is much stricter than Army and Air Force Boards. SPN codes were the same way. Why did I say were? Because the time limit on those DD 214's to change is expired. The new type of DD 214 eliminates the need for SPN Codes as the narritive reason for separation is listed. A much better document.
An employer should have a right to know what type of conduct a veteran had while serving his or her nation. If you recall, you were reminded daily of what would happen, if you do not follow the rules as set forth since the beginning.
If a person desires to use their veteran status in seeking a job, they need to expect a review of their service by the prospective employer.

ATTENTION: I am the Vietnam Vet who took lawsuit to US Supreme Court about SPN CODES. Have lots of documents marked as EXHIBITS before the Courts. As of 1977, 20 MILLION vets had a code, and millions with an HONORABLE have a BAD code. Contact me at ecrosby1@rochester.rr.com and will FAX anyone who wants to see the documents. I ask that you show others or spread them around for all to see. CROSBY v. USAF US Sup. Ct. Reporter 101, October 1980 Term, pages 199 & 797, for those who want to look in a law book. 15th Spec. Ops. Squadron, Nha Trang, RVN MACVSOG 68-70.

In lieu of others on this board i'll attempt to answer your question with experience. After 10 years of service in the Nuclear Navy I (and extending three months beyond my EAOS or obligated service time to completed a deployment) I was given a RE-4 Honorable for what was basically "a lie" (I was charged by my ex-wife with sexual battery against my daughter and the charges were later dismissed after re-opening the case in 1990). After my charges were dismissed, I appealed before the Board for Corrections of Naval Records; the board refused to reverse the RE-4. In 1988, I was employed with the Army Corps of Engineers as a Mechanical Engineer Technician (GS-0802-05 to 07) (I was RIF'ed (reduction in force) for refusing an assignment to the Johnston Atoll Nerve Gas Disposal Plant) and In 1994 took a position with the Navy at the Naval Training Facility in Orlando (I was again RIF'ed in 1997 when the facility was closed). Then I took a GS-05 position with Defense Finance and Accounting Service as an Accountant in 1999, then took a position with the Transportation Security Administration as a Lead Screener in 2002 (during the start-up of the agency), and took a position with Defense Contract Management Agency in 2004 (currently as a GS-0854-11). So, to answer your question, the RE-4 will not prevent employment into a Federal Position as long as you hold an Honorable Discharge. But, there is one caveat - you will need a bachelor's degree for most positions (though many position at the GS-05 to GS-07 level do not require a bachelor's degree you are more competitive with one) and, to obtain a GS-13 or higher position, a graduate degree is usually required. In respect to others who hold a RE-4 Honorable discharge granted by the navy (actually this applies to anyone with an Honorable discharge who does not receive retirement pay from the military) - time served in the military can be purchase into the Federal Employees Retirement System (FERS) by depositing 2% of your total base pay while on active duty.

I just have read the posting, and I am really appreciated for the given information.
I just learned that with re-4 reentry code does not prevent you from getting into government job field,
but it says it's mostly if it's an honorable discharge. I personally received an other than honerable discharge: uncharacterized (entry level separation) SPD code: JDA and have two reasons why getting separated which are 1. erroneous 2. fraudulent entry enlistment. I am quite concerned with my future. I know it is nearly impossible to get my code changed, then I would like to ask if my chances of getting into government job filed are the same as what had been asnwered there or it's not doable? For instance such as Police Department.
I know it's too late to regret now, I just hope I will still be fine to make up what I mistook in the past. Your reponses will be greatly appreciated. Thank you very mich in advance.

All you can do is apply for the jobs and offer up any reasonings or justification for your past actions or lack of for that situation. Those codes were designed to qualify or categorize those seeking rentry back into the military after a discharge, and unless there is a security clearance required for the job, these codes aren't supposed to be used against you.

I really do appreciate the helpful feedback of yours.
I wonder if there is anyone that had a similar experience, such as with JDA and still got hired from the police department or any government place? It would be really helpful if the people that did it share their valuable experiences with me.
Again, I appreciate all of your helpful information, thank you very much.

on my dd214 i was given an uncharecterized (ELS) JFC, RE4, discharge a year ago. the thing is i went to the VA for self reported depression and was having pains in my chest due to that state. now of course i admit to the fact that i wasnt ready to leave. i was young and didnt want to leave my family behind. i was on my P4 day when this occured. at the end it was determined that i had a "personality disorder not otherwise specified". the only medication i took was ibuprofen. i had no prior mental health treatment. since my discharge a year ago i have been working living a normal civilian life. my question is, Is there anything i can do to get back in??

Hell, well i was in the navy for nine months before i was discharged (under honorable conditions) now i'm waiting on my passport so i can get with a Military sealift command which is a job for merchant seaman. Will My RE code play a part in me getn the job, it is a government job and i was discharged for misconduct. code JKQ, i really hope it won't hinder me from getting this job on the ship because the pay is great!