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"3/68th ADA Death From Below"
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Question:
I have pretty much had enough of the Bush dynasty, but would hope we have some valid choices in the next election. Of all possibilities, who do you hope makes a run for President with their running mate in 2008?

Choices:
Rudolph Giuliani/John McCain
Rudolph Giuliani/add a name here
Hillary Clinton/add a name here
Joseph Lieberman/add a name here
None of the above

 


Real courage is found, not in the willingness to risk death, but in the willingness to stand, alone if necessary, against the ignorant and disapproving herd. — Jon Roland, 1976

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I'm thinking it's going to be Hillary/Wesley Clark for the Democratic ticket. Hopefully, the Republicans will have a better option. My choice for president is James Webb, former Secretary of the Navy in the Reagan Administration, Marine Corps Combat officer in Vietnam, and celebrated author. He has it all - military experience, government experience, and intellectual capacities.
"3/68th ADA Death From Below"
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Personally, I'm hoping Rudy Giuliani will run. I'm leaning toward John McCain as his running mate, but there are things about McCain I don't like. John McCain and Russ Feingold, in what was supposed to be an attempt to reform the financing of federal elections, effectively muzzled the people by using 'Express Advocacy' to disallow any communication that advocates the election or defeat of a candidate by--

(i) containing a phrase such as 'vote for', 're-elect', 'support', 'cast your ballot for', '(name of candidate) for Congress', '(name of candidate) in 1997', 'vote against', 'defeat', 'reject', or a campaign slogan or words that in context can have no reasonable meaning other than to advocate the election or defeat of 1 or more clearly identified candidates;

(ii) referring to 1 or more clearly identified candidates in a paid advertisement that is broadcast by a radio broadcast station or a television broadcast station within 60 calendar days preceding the date of an election of the candidate and that appears in the State in which the election is occurring, except that with respect to a candidate for the office of Vice President or President, the time period is within 60 calendar days preceding the date of a general election;

or

(iii)expressing unmistakable and unambiguous support for or opposition to 1 or more clearly identified candidates when taken as a whole and with limited reference to external events, such as proximity to an election.

I'm sure at this point you get MY point. They have effectively snuffed our 1st amendment in a time when there should be nothing in the way of bringing new and potentially very important information to the attention of the people.

I think I would vote for Rudy Giuliani regardless of who he chose as his running mate, but I'm hoping he will find the best possible candidate for Vice-President.


Real courage is found, not in the willingness to risk death, but in the willingness to stand, alone if necessary, against the ignorant and disapproving herd. — Jon Roland, 1976

"3/68th ADA Death From Below"
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Originally posted by TOW Gunner:
I'm thinking it's going to be Hillary/Wesley Clark for the Democratic ticket. Hopefully, the Republicans will have a better option. My choice for president is James Webb, former Secretary of the Navy in the Reagan Administration, Marine Corps Combat officer in Vietnam, and celebrated author. He has it all - military experience, government experience, and intellectual capacities.


I'm with you on the point about having someone who can run against and defeat Hillary. If she is nominated and she runs, I think Rudy Giuliani is pretty much the only person the Republicans could nominate with a chance to beat her. The thought of Hillary Clinton in office scares the hell out of me, and I hope and pray that there's NO possibility for her to succeed and gain office. The Bi otch scares the hell out of me!


Real courage is found, not in the willingness to risk death, but in the willingness to stand, alone if necessary, against the ignorant and disapproving herd. — Jon Roland, 1976

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I think that a good choice for the republicans to counter Hilary would be Condy Rice. She could match the female vote from Hilary, and gain a lot of minority vote. As a running mate I don't know.

What do you all think about Rice? Yea or Nay?


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Rice would be good for a veep..but not quite at the level of being a qualified prez..how about this combo:

Guiliani/Rice

OH YEAH!!!!!!!!!
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Originally posted by Amvet91Alpha:
Rice would be good for a veep..but not quite at the level of being a qualified prez..how about this combo:

Guiliani/Rice

OH YEAH!!!!!!!!!


Amy, I could deal with that, and I agree with you. Condy Rice would probably make a damn good VP, but I don't think she would have near as good a chance at beating Hitlery as Rudy Giuliani. I believe Rudy Giuliani would take the majority of votes in the state of New York. After 9/11 the people of this entire country saw him stand stalwart against the terrorist attack. He showed what true character was, and I think he would easily defeat Hitlery.


Real courage is found, not in the willingness to risk death, but in the willingness to stand, alone if necessary, against the ignorant and disapproving herd. — Jon Roland, 1976

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guliani took a big hit on his recommendation and support of Kerlik for homeland defence chief .. that could really hurt him .. and there was more than just nannygate around kerlik's neck .. a lot more ...
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and this is separate ...condy also got knocked down on her continued support of the alledged WMD ......mommy's who might still be seeing their son's going off to war could remember that ...
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and finally .. 9-11 was in 2001 .. by the time he's running .. it's be nealy seven years .. most people's political memory isn't that long ...
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that's a good point Holton..he should see about holding some kind of office in the meantime, or hitting the speaking circuit big..he needs to do something to keep his name fresh.
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Amy, he could probably care less right now. If I remember right he has a security business that is doing really well right now. I agree that he should make sure he stays in the public lime light. For him to have a shot at president in 2008 he will need to keep his name fresh in the people's minds. He was asked if he would run in 2008 and he made a comment saying he was perfectly happy doing what he's doing now. I'm sure if called upon by the party and made to believe the people of the United States need him...I think he would run, but I'm not sure he will seek that office.

If Hitlery makes her bid for the office, we may see an altogether different attitude from Giuliani. I think he realizes we will need someone that can take New York, and I think Giuliani would take New York from Hitlery. It would probably be the first time a Republican has in quite a few years.


Real courage is found, not in the willingness to risk death, but in the willingness to stand, alone if necessary, against the ignorant and disapproving herd. — Jon Roland, 1976

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Even though I voted for President Bush I am a Dem.I like Liberman he might be to weak or Honest for the job I don't think WMD had or will have any effect on this election or next election the American people will not ever forget 9/11 or all of the people executed by the last Iraq Political machine or the Batth party.Don't forget there is supposed to be a connections between Iraq and the OK City bombing also.
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Connection between Iraq and the Oklahoma City bombing...!!!!!

They both begin with 'vowels'... Wink
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Haven't you read the supposed connections between Oklahoma,City bombing & Iraq
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Haven't you read the supposed connections between Oklahoma,City bombing & Iraq

No.... I read about supposed WMD conections, but those turned out to be a dead lead...

Got a link???
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RIML hear is the link http://www.okcbombing.org/
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RIML hear is the link http://www.okcbombing.org/

Read that article - nothing in it convinces me in any way that a link exists. Conspiracy speculation - nothing more.

Very common home grown explosive - the same kind of bomb was used to blow up the Math building at the University of Wisconsin - Madison, Wisc back in 1970.

ATF used to do training demos of the effect of those home-grown devices - I attended occasionally back during Cop days.
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I don't know about the explosives but there is also a book and it had a lot of research on the movements on Mcveigh & Terry Nichlos and connections it makes since and just as possible as a lot other junk out there the link is The Third Terroist by Jayna Davis
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Condi Rice / Governor Mitt Romney of MA

Condi is a strong, extremely smart woman that can bring the women and minority vote. Romney I heard might have his eye on the White House anyway and he may get a few blue states seeing as how he's governor of one of the bluest states of all.

Romney / Rice may work too, but I prefer Condi.

Giuliani as a runner up for Condi only because he can draw some votes. On social issues, he's too far to the left for me.
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