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Senators Introduce Semper Fi Act of 2008

Bill Stops Berkeley Earmarks and Transfers Funds to Marine Corps

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Washington, D.C. - Today, U.S. Senators James Inhofe (R-Oklahoma), Jim DeMint (R-South Carolina), Saxby Chambliss (R-Georgia), Tom Coburn, M.D. (R-Oklahoma), John Cornyn (R-Texas), and David Vitter (R-Louisiana) introduced the Semper Fi Act of 2008. The bill would rescind over $2 million in hidden earmarks for Berkeley, California in the 2008 Omnibus Appropriations bill, and transfer the funds to the Marine Corps. U.S. Congressman John Campbell (R-California) is introducing a companion bill in the House of Representatives.

Last week, the City Council of Berkeley voted to oust Marine Corps recruiters from their downtown office, saying the Marines were 'uninvited and unwelcome intruders.' Berkeley officials also voted to give the radical protest group Code Pink space outside the recruitment office and urged them to 'impede, passively or actively' the work of Marine Corps recruiters.

One earmark provides $243,000 in taxpayer dollars for the organization Chez Panisse <http://www.chezpanisse.com/> to create gourmet organic school lunches in the Berkeley School District. Chez Panisse is dedicated to 'environmental harmony' and their menu features 'Comt cheese souffl with mche salad,' 'Meyer lemon clairs with huckleberry coulis,' and 'Chicory salad with creamy anchovy vinaigrette and olive toast.'

Another earmark would spend $975,000 in taxpayer dollars for the University of California in Berkeley Matsui Center for Politics and Public Service, to create a new endowment and cataloging the papers of Congressman Robert Matsui. U.C. Berkeley currently already has a $3.5 billion endowmen! t.
Senator Inhofe: 'Unfortunately, those on the Berkeley city council do not seem to understand the sacrifice of the brave men and women of the United States Marine Corps. By interfering with military recruiting, the city of Berkeley is hampering our ability to protect this nation. While the city of Berkeley and the protestors are free to say whatever they like, free speech is not a protection from consequence.'
Senator DeMint: 'Berkeley needs to learn that their actions have consequences. Patriotic American taxpayers won't sit quietly while Berkeley insults our brave Marines and tries to run them out of town. Berkeley City Council members have shown complete ingratitude to our military and their families, and the city doesn't deserve a single dime of special pet project handouts.'

Senator Cornyn: 'The Berkeley City Council insulted our troops and offended people across the country. If the U.S. Marines are not good enough for Berkeley, neither are taxpayer dollars Congress would have sent there this year. That city closed its doors on the same individuals taking bullets on the front lines while fighting for the safety and freedom of families in Berkeley and throughout America.'

Senator Vitter: 'The actions of the City Council of Berkeley are in stark contrast to beliefs of the vast majority of Americans who recognize and honor the service and sacrifice of our U.S. Marines. This is simply unacceptable and those funds could be better utilized by the Marine Corps.'

Dr. Coburn: 'The actions by the city of Berkeley are deplorable and insulting to those who are serving and those who have paid the ultimate sacrifice to protect the very freedoms that are being exercised to insult them. I know I stand with the majority of Americans in thanking our service men and women for their selfless service to our nation.'

Senator Chambliss: 'We need to send a strong message that our military personnel deserve our strongest support. Georgia is a proud military state, and my constituents will be out outraged to know that during a time of war, their taxpayers dollars have been used to reward folks who have insulted and disparaged those who defend this nation every day.'


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About damn time, now if it only pass's. I can't think of a better group to receive that money.


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This Bill should not pass.

1. The people of Berkeley have Rights
2. It's an all-Republican Bill
3. Taking money away from one of the best Public Universities, (Cal-Berkeley)
4. Taking money away from Public schools
5. It looks like fascism when you take away people's rights for giving their tax money to public schools and giving it to the military. When the military gets the biggest budget.
6. What happened to State's Rights? (A Republican principle) Hypocrites.


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5. It looks like fascism when you take away people's rights for giving their tax money to public schools and giving it to the military. When the military gets the biggest budget.


You think so? So, when an organization or business leases a space, then are denied use of that space by certain individuals and can no longer do business in that space, and those individuals are supported by the government, that sounds a bit like fascism...right? And that organization has no recourse....right? Well, I guess maybe they could sue the government for use of the space, and (if we're still in America) they can also sue for damages.....damages that hurt the funding of certain portions of the government, of course......hmmmmm.
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So the military is now a business organization? I've heard of the military industrial complex. If that's the case then people can vote them out. You see towns all the time voting out Wal-Mart.

If the military sues for damages for taking away Public School funding when they get a $10 Billion/month in budget is a true sign of fascism. This Bill should die.


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Berkeley is nothing more than a dull experiment. Frizzled-Haired dim-wits living in their own silly world ( very well protected by a great Police Force...of course ). " Lets go to Whole Foods and get a 95 dollar squid salad ". Soldiers are the only reason there is a Berkeley not to mention an America. Somebody died just so they could be the ergo-crapcakes they are.
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Mulder this Bill is neither about Cal -Berkley or State this is about ( D) earmarks promised by District Senator after the USMC were allowed to place their Recruiteing Station and the Anti- War Code Pink wants to make a statement using the Marines as the in- between.This is not a Bill against Berkley but the radical City Council.

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So the military is now a business organization?


No, dense one. It was a comparison to show that IF a private individual or organization was subject to the same treatment that the USMC has received in Berkeley, they would have recourse and that people like you would be screaming "fascists" in the other direction.

Thanks for playing though.

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Mulder this Bill is neither about Cal -Berkley or State this is about ( D) earmarks promised by District Senator after the USMC were allowed to place their Recruiteing Station and the Anti- War Code Pink wants to make a statement using the Marines as the in- between.This is not a Bill against Berkley but the radical City Council.


This Bill takes money away from Cal-Berkeley (Public University) and Public schools within the city of Berkeley.


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Mulder this argument was caused by Radical Council Members and this was the results removal of (D) earmarks promised by Sen.Barbra Lee none of which are nessary for Public Education.
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Originally posted by SULLY1:
Mulder this argument was caused by Radical Council Members and this was the results removal of (D) earmarks promised by Sen.Barbra Lee none of which are nessary for Public Education.


Earmarks for public school funding is now a radical belief?

1. You are saying people of Berkeley do not have rights.
2. Public school funding is below the military.
3. State's rights do not matter.
4. People's taxes to help public schools do not matter.

The only thing that is missing is a swastika.

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Mulder you are just plain smart when you speak of equal rights what about the inocent bystander what about the USMC's rights I guess they don't have any.
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Mulder you are just plain smart when you speak of equal rights what about the inocent bystander what about the USMC's rights I guess they don't have any.


They protect the Constitution not abide by it. Ever heard of the UCMJ?


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Mulder are you saying just because they live and die protecting the Constution that they are not protected by the same as others.No Mulder I have never heard of the UCMJ at least the one you go by.By the way my Avatar I earned how about You.
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Mulder are you saying just because they live and die protecting the Constution that they are not protected by the same as others.No Mulder I have never heard of the UCMJ at least the one you go by.By the way my Avatar I earned how about You.


The military does not use civilian courts unless they are Supreme Court trials. It's not the same system when you compare that to civilian/citizen courts. Of course I have earned my avatar.


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Mulder are you saying that the Constution does not apply to Military Personal.Question do you even know what your Avatar is.You earned O-6 without going in the Military Damm you are good.Mulder I sure feel handicapted talking Military with you.
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Mulder are you saying that the Constution does not apply to Military Personal.Question do you even know what your Avatar is.You earned O-6 without going in the Military Damm you are good.Mulder I sure feel handicapted talking Military with you.


The military uses the Constitution, but does not abide by it. What do you call the occupation of Iraq and Afghanistan? Sure isn't democracy according to the Constitution. Also, taking away money from the Public is about as Unconstitutional as you can get.

Yeah, I know my (0-6) is either Captain or Colonel. It's an avatar, so what. Even if I did enter the military I would probably be an Officer anyways.


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I didn't say anything about Iraq or any other War I ask you a simple question do you or don't you think those USMC Recruiters have Constutional Rights.
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I didn't say anything about Iraq or any other War I ask you a simple question do you or don't you think those USMC Recruiters have Constutional Rights.


You worded it wrong. Do USMC Recruiting Stations have Constitutional Rights? The answer would be no, since they are essentially part of a military industrial complex, a corporate entity part of a whole. Corporations can get voted out of towns (like Wal-Mart, CostCo, etc.).


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