" Im liberal on some things and conservitive on others...." and certifiably looney on most everything else...

your only concern is that the use of nukes would slow up the oil cartel sucking Iraq dry?
you're not at all concerned that the ' collateral damage ', currently mounting up, and causing no end of PR/Optics grief to Bush would be far worse and more damaging to america's reputation and standing in the world if Dubya started ordering carpet bombing by the Air force and the Navy to open up the big guns from offshore?

Tell me, rrpearso, while enjoying the great outdoors in the hinterland where you hang out, do you not bother to brake for cuddly squirrels in your rush to smell the roses?

Maybe you have a point about your treatment at the hands of the military, with every post you make it clear that someone must have whacked you upside the head and scrambled your brains...

I would rather have other people die for there country than our guys die for ours. And the crap stain of the middle east is not worth even so much as keeping anyone away from there families for as long as these deployments last. And you are right basic training changed my views (a smack on the head if you will) on alot of things when I learned first hand how the military treats its own people.

In order to make them die for thier country, we have to be there to make it so. Here's the rub, they aren't doing it for thier country.

As for the Middle East not being worth the effort and lives, in this you are very, very wrong.

Before we went in to do what needed to be done, Iraq and Afgansitan was the ideal location for training camps for terrorists. The regimes in power in both nations welcomed them in with open arms. Have you forgotten all of this?

And just what would you know of deployments, you haven't ever left the country have you? If you wish to preach to us, at least preach about real experiences....but then that would leave alot of these replies blank huh? Say it once, and leave it at that, ain't no one deleting your posts, so its there for any who want to respond and open a dialog about it.

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Originally posted by rppearso:
I would rather have other people die for there country than our guys die for ours. And the crap stain of the middle east is not worth even so much as keeping anyone away from there families for as long as these deployments last. And you are right basic training changed my views (a smack on the head if you will) on alot of things when I learned first hand how the military treats its own people.

Please try to make sense. Now you want OTHERS to die because of how OUR military treats its own? And you don't want to have anything to do with it because you don't belong in the service.
I can't understand any of this reasoning. Are you schitzophrenic? One day its "nuke 'em all and let God sort them out!"; the next you're railing against the entire military industrial complex and praising John Kerry......
AH-HA! Never mind, just answered my own question. OF COURSE, a fan of John Kerry is gowing to have multiple views..."ALL views, actually, just depends on my audience and the underwear I'm wearing."
Not An Actual Quote by John Kerry

Ok,

I disagree with the training methods used by the military.

I somewhat agree with the war, but I disagree with having a private sitting in a check point to get sniped by some arab, instead we should be bombing and shelling, that is just my opinion. I disagree with fighting there civil war for them, in my opininon what is going on now is a civil war.

I dont really agree with the democrats or republicans in there entirety but you have to pick the lesser of the 2 evils and in my opinion the democrats are the lesser of the 2 evils. So its not that im skitso, its that I think for myself, I know that is a rare occurance these days.

So is this the REAL rrpearso or his Evil Twin speaking ?

seems he wants to do to the poor non-combattant innocent civilians of Iraq and Afghanistan exactly what the menacing terrorists want to do to the just plain folks of America and the west.. .blow 'em up real good and damn the fallout and ruthless image that presents to the rest of the world...

interesting..

with the cost of fighting terrorism on two or more fronts now closing in on trillions of greenbacks [ see thread on milspot homepage before it is ' archived '..] what would rrpearso [ and the rest of you ] think of taking the cash and instead of paying all those soldiers to go off and fight, say, you just go into Afghnaistan and buy up the entire poppy crop..pay off all the farmers what they'd get [ or more ] from selling their stuff to the drug lords -put them out of business, feed the poor and use the poppy crops to make a whackload of legimate medicince for the other third world nations suffering various diseases..well? [ it at least free up 20,000 troops for duty in Iraq allowing a bunch of the boys to rotate home sooner -thus filling one of rrpearso's concerns .]


one of things I do for a living is a column on history, and, in researching something topical for this week or so, I was reminded of the post D-Day efforts of the allied forces in Normandy. The Brits and Canadians attacked the city of Caen to oust entrenched German troops. classical FIBUA/OBUA effort.. Air Force dropped over 2000 heavy bombs on the place andthen the army went in house to house in fierce mop up... in addition to the military toll on each side over 3000 French civilians were ' collateral damage ' and, for some reason, no one seemerd particularly distressed in the same way as we wring our hands today..most were just releived and happy that the fanatic Nazi regime was kicked out and the town' liberated '...what changed? prevelence and access of the press which makes the ' outfall' more blatant and immediate causing ' second thoughts' and ' questions asked of powers that be'? or has society ' evolved ' into a more caring and compassionate realm?

Thats because the atomic bomb was not invented until after germany was liberated. We did not hesitate using it on Japan. I do think they need to not use these mega nukes though, some of these new nukes are over the top.

We would have used 2 more had they not surrendered.

oh, so you want to use ' humane' atomic bombs, now?

why not use Neutron Bombs.. wipes out people but leaves the infrastructure in place [ i.e. the oil wells ]..

rrpearso.. you are one sick puppy...

You know something I almost forgot about thoes.