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"Charletan and Montebank"
Registered: 16 February 2005
Posts: 1284
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Been reading a fair bit of the pundits on the looming US elections and, I've got to wonder if this next go round will just continue the farce or improve on US/Internal/International relations..

Seems to me that there's been a awful lot of concentration on ' secondary 'characteristics regarding the incumbent and his potential successor[s]..

Everyone is still - [ after 8 years!] slamming Dubya for being the ' cracked egg in the dozen' or the 60 watt bulb in the box of 100's but I've got to say.. what gives?

The guy is only one man.. he's the figurehead/pointman for the Republican Party! He's not gawd.. his word isn't law [ until the Senate and House of Reps' says so ] all he can do is parrot?elucidate? the policies and thrust and point of view of his party and its philosophy - right or wrong - on how to run things at home and abroad..

Even if he was ackowledged as a brilliant man personally, he's still beholden to his party and must espouse/defend, or whatever, their slant/take on things or he wouldn't be put ' in charge ' from the start, right? One can 'assume' that the party [ cynically or with a 'secret' agenda ] placed him as their token- spoken or front man because he could be ' manipulated' or convinced to spout the party propaganda without, presumably, questioning too much the angle on their take..

but, is he any different than the contenders for his slot?

Obama and Hillary got to toe the party line, slant, philosophy just as much or they won't get the endorement and they won't have any more success in pushing things through their vested interests, special groups, and whatever any more than any president can/could...

I'm just riffing here so jump in if you can clarify or ' teach me the error of my ways '..

So, what's up/wrong with the wannabees?

Obama is Black? Not Black-enough? ' untainted' by political corruption or too naive from not having enough ' politics' under his belt?I keep reading that he is not' in tune' with the real Afro-American experience [ no gangsta/hood presence, no poverty/reality check.. I dunno ]..he can't relate to the Latinos and he can't make connections with the solid whitetrashers [ gaffe in Pennsy the latest ,etc. etc. ]

whatever..

As for Hillary.. She's been tarred as a Bitchy Feminist, Strident harridian, pushy mouthy female too uppity and strutting about like its her time by right... The same qualities she is exhibiting -' alpha male ' -would be lauded in a guy as leadership qualities, strong, resolute, forceful.. ,'America is no pushover' , etc. etc.. but, as a women she's a no-go.. People are still more interested in what she'll wear to the dance than what's in her head..seems to me..America still wants their women ' barefoot and pregnant' in the home or naked in a centrefold with staples in the bellybutton...[ sorry, Hillary specifically displayed that way gave me a momentary shudder, but the underlying concept is still valid ]

As for Rep. MCCain.. here's a guy with street cred, pragmatism, and guts to stand up and say what he thinks and he's lambasted for being' out of touch, ruffling the feathers of his party for not hewing solidly to the party line [ even when its obviously wrong/a crock ] and labelled as too old at 71 [ fears he'll die in office or, worse, go like Reagan demented in the head and reduced to playing patty cake with mumsy in the Oval Office ] plus he's a cripple/handicapped [ forgetting Roosevelt? ]because he can't raise his hands over his head or toss out the first ball at a game since he was ' injured' in Viet Nam..[ which, of course, brings up his involvement in a ' war' no one likes or likes to talk about 'cause it makes 'em pause over Iraq and quake and quiver ]...the country isn't sure it wants a guy in office who actually was in the military anymore [ not forgetting Dubya's valourous war record ] after the tradition was broken by Clinton, B...

[ funny up my way we've had , since the creation of the country in 1867..not one Prime Minister who ever served in the military - though we've had our share of ' war-monger/supporters ]

anyway.. I'm just wondering what you guys think.. since you're all no-nonsense types with both feet firmly planted in the soil of America feeling her pulse with every step you take [ excluding, of course, reppearso who , thankfully, seems to have gone into hibernation and , maybe Typhoon, who is too busy playing/downloading on Youtube and larging himself up to the ladies on Facebook to pay much attention to politickin' LOL - that's a joke, son - no nastygrams please ]..

over to you my American cousins.. what say you to the Race to replace the Dubya?


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Location: Arizona
Registered: 08 May 2005
Posts: 1457
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On another forum:
A true hero. The most honorable of the three remaining candidates. I also like John McCain because the radical, hysterical American Left despise him.

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A true hero. The most honorable of the three remaining candidates. I also like John McCain because the radical, hysterical American Right despise him.


I think that kinda sums it up for me.
"Curmudgeon"
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Location: Washtenaw County, Michigan
Registered: 21 January 2005
Posts: 1745
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Rocketeer: The Democratic party is two parties who have never gotten along (somewhere an English teacher is crying).

I also like John M. for about the same reasons as Patoloco. He is also better at getting along with the opposing party than many are these days.


"It is fatal to enter any war without the will to win it"
DOUGLAS MacARTHUR, 1952
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Location: KY
Registered: 20 May 2005
Posts: 1216
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Rocketeer, just my .02 cents it don't matter. What I mean is the people don't elect the prez no matter what they say (either party) Seems to me that who ever has the most money or is owed the most favors will be the president. I don't care what color the person or what sex they are, I just want the best liar to get it (lol) Nothing is gonna change except tax's and how to better screw the people. cheer

Post script: Yes we the people really like to think that our votes count and we elected the president but I don't believue we do. Like I said just my .02 cents, some may agree and some may not their choice.

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