RIML, you missed me huh? I am not here to defend GH. However in this case where there is a possibility of Fraud, IF someone contacted someone in the system and made them aware of this, and that person stated there was no such claim, well not sure where the law was broken.
It was stated that there was no such claim, no personal information was passed from the VA. The information passed to them was provided by Amy herself. She made sure everyone knew who the hell she was. Too Bad, So Sad..
Actually I applaude this if it were in fact done. Fraudulent Claims screw every Veteran out here trying to get what the rightfully earned and deserved.
I am relieved she does not in fact have a Claim, or a Disability. One thing to be a Poser on the Internet, another to be one leeching off the VA.

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Originally posted by rb325th:
I am relieved she does not in fact have a Claim, or a Disability. One thing to be a Poser on the Internet, another to be one leeching off the VA.

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Well - you don't know that she does - and you don't know that she doesn't.

If she had just been advised of it - it may be of a "Proposal to Award" - in which case it won't be into the system yet.

I would keep allegations of fraud to private eMail.... Unless, of course, you can absolutly prove them

She has alread proven herself to be a fraud, a number of times over. Even if there is only a letter of Award the claim is in the sytstem. BTDT Myself a couple of times. Mine still shows up when I contact the VA about it, even though it has had no further action placed on it. Call on the phone and they pull it up on the computer. Only way it would not be there is if it had not been filed.
As to taking it to E-mail. Nahhhh she is registered on 5's forum, if she wants to fight it out there, she is more than welcome. She just keeps digging the hole deeper, actually she has pulled the dirt over the top of herself now..

Like I have been saying all along: She SAYS she has a claim, but she SAYS all sorts of shit.
Someone like her would say that they have one, or successfully applied for one, just to get people to feel sorry for her.

She will lie about anything, including a VA claim she has never filed.

When you find yourself getting all worked up over the crap being spewed by a pathological liar, as in "the VA is giving me money", immediately remind yourself that nothing a pathological liar says is likely to have any truth to it.

Plus, even if she finally gets it through her head that everyone on the various boards hates her guts, she'll take comfort from knowing that some people believe her lies about the VA accepting her claim. It doesn't matter that those who believe her are angry with her for that supposed claim, the pathological liar thrives on being believed, first and foremost. Being believed in their lies is more important than being acceptd or liked.

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Even if there is only a letter of Award the claim is in the sytstem.

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I'm not convinced that the claim is not in the system.

I do know enough not to believe GH, and I also know enough not to believe her.

Be aware that a person can get a letter of Proposal to Award - which means that there will be a later Letter of Award issued. Two very different instruments - and with the Proposal to Award the disability may not yet be in the system - not until the actual award is made.

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Originally posted by rb325th:
IF someone contacted someone in the system and made them aware of this, and that person stated there was no such claim, well not sure where the law was broken.

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If the person has no legal authorization to reveal if there are - or aren't - any claims, then there exists a violation of privacy regulations.

If someone is reporting a suspected case of fraud and is told that no such claim exsists, I do not see where the problem is. No personal information was passed by the VA, they had none to pass on.
Had they passed on information regarding an actual claim, yes it would be a violation of law.
Would it be violation of the Law if I reported suspected illegal activity by an individual to the Police, and they told that there was no illegal activity taking place? Don't think so RIML.

Riml

I'm not going to go back and look, but I think she said the DAV notifed her. They do sometimes call and advise that your claim has been approved prior to you receiving a letter from the VA.

I wouldn't believe anything I see or "hear" on these forums. I would have to talk with least three people that were by her side in "combat" at this point.

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Originally posted by rb325th:
If someone is reporting a suspected case of fraud and is told that no such claim exsists, I do not see where the problem is. No personal information was passed by the VA, they had none to pass on.
Had they passed on information regarding an actual claim, yes it would be a violation of law.
Would it be violation of the Law if I reported suspected illegal activity by an individual to the Police, and they told that there was no illegal activity taking place? Don't think so RIML.

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Comparing VA information to what you decribe by the police are two very different situations.

If someone calls the VA and asks if someone else has filed a claim, they should not be told either way - yes or no.

Now if you are reporting suspected fraud - the interviewer should be able to get initial information from you without divulging whether or not that person is a claimant.

At some point it may be determined that it might be necessary to advise you of some information to further the investigation, but not usually until it's determined that there is some neccessity.

AirborneHound

- At this point I wouldn't believe jack-shidt about any particulars of this case. It was only my intention to bring up points which I believe would be of interest concerning "Release of Infrmation" issues, and also the possibility that a person could get a letter of "Proposal to Award" without an actual award being yet in the system.

I care a fig what this person is alleged to have or have not done...

Ron, you are placing your dislike and distain for Greenhat over this. She only had to provide a Unit that she was assigned to here and elsewhere, and she could not even do that.
She is full of crap. She is one sob story after another, has lied multiple times here and elsewhere about things.
She has had ample oppurtunity to defend herself and her claim, she refused to. Sorry, but I would have been all over slamming the accusers with evidence had it been me. As would any Vet I know. Posers always have an excuse, reason why they can not reveal information.
Sorry you had problems with GH, but you are letting that cloud your judgement of her. She is a user. Don't let yourself be used.

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Ron, you are placing your dislike and distain for Greenhat over this. She only had to provide a Unit that she was assigned to here and elsewhere, and she could not even do that.
She is full of crap. She is one sob story after another, has lied multiple times here and elsewhere about things.
She has had ample oppurtunity to defend herself and her claim, she refused to. Sorry, but I would have been all over slamming the accusers with evidence had it been me. As would any Vet I know. Posers always have an excuse, reason why they can not reveal information.
Sorry you had problems with GH, but you are letting that cloud your judgement of her. She is a user. Don't let yourself be used.

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GH and her are two different issues.

She shouldn't have brought it to the boards... And he shouldn't have taken it.

As I said in another post above - I am personally aware of GH misusing his position and conferring with VHA personnel without permission over private matters. Complaints had been lodged.

Entirely different, unrelated matter. So nothing he does surprises me.

Gee, I always wanted me bonafides verified by GreenieWeenie!!! I guess that's out of the question, now. sniff-sniff

Yogi

I don't see how GH could gain access to her claim status even with the proper forms. Her doctor, Social Security, law enforcement, or other government agency, yes, with the proper release forms. And even then, it takes months. I needed back surgery, but failed the pre-op due to a medical problem the VA was treating me for. They felt it would be risky to administer anasthesia. I finally got my surgery, after a 6 month bureaucratic fight to get records released. In a related work comp case, my attorney took 4 months to get my VA comp status, even with my signed permission. The VA is extremely anal when it comes to releasing information. But that was my experience. Others may have different results.

WarHawk...The idea of GH "verifying" much of anything is BS.

Yogi

I'm glad the VA is picky about releasing information. The current pissing contest is a perfect example why. If they weren't, every Tom, Dick and Harry on the internet could use it to f.u.c.k with you. But she really should have kept her mouth shut. Thanks to Google, she'll be hounded at every forum she goes to, unless she changes her user name.