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Registered: 13 August 2005
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A little early but..
America,she may not be perfect but she sure beats whatever is second.
A happy and safe holiday to all.
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If you hamper the war effort of one side, you automatically help out that of the other. In practice, "he that is not with me is against me. "
The quickest way of ending a war is to lose it.
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"Charletan and Montebank"
Registered: 16 February 2005
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Ah, Yes..

A great Big Happy Birthday to all you Southerners from the True North..As I sit in the sunshine and quaff more than a few in celebration of Canada Day - July 1 [ 1867 the year we cut the apron strings from Mother Britain ] I'll pause to toast you American cousins, and the great relationship our two countries seem to have created over the years..

Enjoy the holiday, my friends..

Hell, even you rrpearso!!


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saluteHappy Canada Day



Happy 4th to everyone . salute
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Thanks for the reminder,Rocketeer.
Happy Canada Day.
Today is also the 90th Anniversary of the Battle of the Somme.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_the_Somme_%281916%29

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If you hamper the war effort of one side, you automatically help out that of the other. In practice, "he that is not with me is against me. "
The quickest way of ending a war is to lose it.
George Orwell





"Charletan and Montebank"
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Not to put a downer on the Celebratory Weekend..but, yeah... the Battle of the Somme...

some history for the silent toast to the Fallen:

On Dominion day 1916, Canadians awoke to headlines that told of a million shells being fired at the German positions on the Somme River in Picardy. On Monday, July 3, their papers reported that British field Marshall Dougals Haig's " big push " had already netted almost 9,000 POW's and freed 11 French villages. For more than a week, the headlines continued to tell of great victories and even Haig's ' jubilation '.

Then came the reality, beginning with the news that the British had lost, then retaken Trones Woods. On July 13, word came that the Newfoundland regiment had been all but wiped out. Of 810 men and officers, 660 [ including every officer ] had been killed or wounded during a failed attack on Beaumont Hamel. In total, during the first day of the Somme, the British army lost 58,000 men and gained almost none of the objectives. By the time the Canadians captured Desire Trench, in mid-November, the Allies had suffered more than 650,000 casualties, 24,029 of them Canadians - and in some places they still had not reached their objectives for the first day of the Somme

It is difficult to imagine in this day and age that a whole generation of young men could be wiped out in a matter of minutes and a hundred of so small communities could lose nearly their whole male population in one go...


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Rocketeer, stole my thunder. Was going to remind everyone of the same thing. 01 July remains as the single bloodiest day in UK history. If you read up on this, the shear numbers of artillery shells dropped, rounds expended, prisoners taken, and most devastatingly, the casualties suffered are just astounding.
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Happy the 4th of July to all of you here salute
and happy 4th of July to all of our military members over there! helmet
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Originally posted by Rocketeer:
Not to put a downer on the Celebratory Weekend..but, yeah... the Battle of the Somme...

some history for the silent toast to the Fallen:

On Dominion day 1916, Canadians awoke to headlines that told of a million shells being fired at the German positions on the Somme River in Picardy. On Monday, July 3, their papers reported that British field Marshall Dougals Haig's " big push " had already netted almost 9,000 POW's and freed 11 French villages. For more than a week, the headlines continued to tell of great victories and even Haig's ' jubilation '.

Then came the reality, beginning with the news that the British had lost, then retaken Trones Woods. On July 13, word came that the Newfoundland regiment had been all but wiped out. Of 810 men and officers, 660 [ including every officer ] had been killed or wounded during a failed attack on Beaumont Hamel. In total, during the first day of the Somme, the British army lost 58,000 men and gained almost none of the objectives. By the time the Canadians captured Desire Trench, in mid-November, the Allies had suffered more than 650,000 casualties, 24,029 of them Canadians - and in some places they still had not reached their objectives for the first day of the Somme

It is difficult to imagine in this day and age that a whole generation of young men could be wiped out in a matter of minutes and a hundred of so small communities could lose nearly their whole male population in one go...

I reread the history of the battle....good Lord,the casualties boggle the mind.
I had forgotten the British used "pals" battalions,men that joined up from a particular town or city served together.Frightful,when casualties were as appalling as at the Somme.
Brave,gallant men.










If you hamper the war effort of one side, you automatically help out that of the other. In practice, "he that is not with me is against me. "
The quickest way of ending a war is to lose it.
George Orwell





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Location: Washtenaw County, Michigan
Registered: 21 January 2005
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Hope you hand a good Canada Day and everyone has a good 4th of July or Independence Day.

Reading about World War I is just too depressing – the casualties were a crime. Let us also not forget that in the U.S. we had Vicksburg and Gettysburg during this time which had their own set of horrors.


"It is fatal to enter any war without the will to win it"
DOUGLAS MacARTHUR, 1952
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Happy Independance Day all! Thanks for what you do! salute
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