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![]() Location: Missouri
Registered: 19 January 2005
Posts: 111
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From a female officer recently returned from Afghanistan ...
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- The "quiz" at the end really explains it all! quote: Don't TELL me that profiling is wrong! In these days of danger from ME extremists - to NOT profile is stupid! Snipes! Heaven won't have us and Hell's afraid we'll take over! |
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Location: Washington State
Registered: 19 January 2005
Posts: 445
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To hell with Abdul's sensibilities...It's RPG to the head time..
I hate political correctness.....will only make more innocents die while we protect abdul because we might offend him. |
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"There is no defeat in death. Victory comes in defending what we know is right while we still live." ![]() Location: From where normal people won't go; On the dark side
Registered: 29 November 2004
Posts: 123
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Welcome to my world. In LE we get slammed if our arrest is based on ANY type of profiling. Yet common citizens do it every day.
(Not a terrorist reference, but...) I stop a car with out of state plates because of a speeding violation and busted headlight. The driver has no insurance and the car reeks of meth (it has a definate smell). I ask for consent to search and he gives it, I find meth and a lot of it. A more intense search following his arrest produces over $50,000 cash...all drug money. I impound the car for siezure, take the money & dope, and arrest the driver. And in walks the ACLU to attempt to get my arrest tossed because the driver is hispanic so I was obviously racially profiling. Forget the fact that at 0300, in the dark, blacked out on the interstate running radar I can't see into his car until I stop it...for speeding and no headlight remember. But I wind up answering questions that should be non-issues. And make no mistake, this happens. On the other hand, the same hispanic walks into the local stop & rob in a predominately upscale white neighborhood and the owner follows him through the store watching his evry move, or even asks him to leave excersizing his "right to refuse service to anyone" and no one thinks twice or bats an eye. A double standard? You bet. Every person profiles in this country every day. EVERYONE. Even those who say they don't because they are ultra liberal and love everyone do it. They do it when they look at me (a conservative cop) and wonder to themselves "How is this guy going to react to me?" Is profiling wrong? Depends on who you ask. But, while in my position it would be a bad idea to pick a side in this argument, maybe you can tell what my un-official answer is to your question. So let's just say that is you live in my area you can rest easy at night knowing I'm looking for certain "things" that are out of place...as it were. PS...I passed the test. Loyalty above all else; Except HONOR |
![]() Location: Miami,Fl.
Registered: 29 November 2004
Posts: 225
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Crimefighter, I dont look at that as profiling.you DID have reasonable cause to pull him over and was a good bust. I also look at it as instinct. have to have a good nose to be a good cop. I watch cops alot,and white trash mostly gets busted. can they be profiled? no! a criminal is a criminal. QSL
Lets Bring 'em home soon |
![]() Location: Missouri
Registered: 19 January 2005
Posts: 111
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I was stationed in NJ when the big profiling issue hit the media there. It seems that they were pulling over a disproportionate number of blacks.
The sad thing was that they had to throw out a bunch of legitimate convictions because of it. The funny thing was that out of all the people they pulled over, over 70% were in the commission of a crime (or found guilty of one by a search of their vehicles). I just wonder who decided it was a "disproportionate number", were many of them really pulled over for "suspicious activities"? If it's true that the only reason they were pulled over was their skin-tone, then I'd be one of the first to say that it was dead wrong! Snipes! Heaven won't have us and Hell's afraid we'll take over! |
"Intolerant to blatant stupidity and whining!!"![]() Location: Minnesnowta
Registered: 19 January 2005
Posts: 176
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quote: What irks me is that if one is "white" , they can't be "profiled". Now, make that same person a minority of ANY type, then it falls back on "racial profiling" regardless of probable cause or not. "We raise our glasses against the forces of evil" |
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"There is no defeat in death. Victory comes in defending what we know is right while we still live." ![]() Location: From where normal people won't go; On the dark side
Registered: 29 November 2004
Posts: 123
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And I would agree, the PC was there fro the stop. And "most" reasonable people would agree. But since when has the ACLU been made up of reasonable people?
The fact is the everyone profiles one way or another. My wife accused me one day of being overly paranoid. We stopped at the store and I was going to run in and grab some milk, or something. She was just going to wait in the car. I locked the doors as I was getting out and she asked why. I pointed to the 2 guys standing in front of the store about 10 feet from the car. She made her accusation...in te form of the question, "Aren't you being overly paranoid?" I just told her that after this many years in my business I find I live longer that way. I got back in the car and she informed me she had changed her mind about it after watching them conduct a drug deal right there in front of her. She asked me what tipped me off and I told her...basically they looked like your standard issue gang bangers; hard to explain to folks mot in my shoes. Did I profile them? Yep. Was I right? Yep. So call it what you want but day to day I will tend to go with my gut every time. Been doing this too long not to. Loyalty above all else; Except HONOR |
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