Wolf I have heard from my son,who is a bow hunter, about making a soft noise to stop a buck. I,myself only gun hunt so it's not necessary. We hunt a lot in Mich. and are always ready to talk about it. If you have any other questions let me know. Be glad to help. You, too fivepak

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Originally posted by Sully:
_Billy_ do you Gun hunt if you do you would like it out here the place I have been going for as long as I can remember is at about 12,000 ft upon the Great Divide big Mule Deer. Don't see many Bow Hunters but I live close so I would not see them different date.

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When I do gun hunt I only slug hunt, no need for a rifle because no need to make very man long range shots, I very seldom hunt open ground.

My belief in this is the farther the shot the farther you have to drag the dang thing.

Man, it's wild to hear people talking about all the places I've been at one point in my life or another. I was working for a company as a contractor back in 1991 and was in and out of Farmington several times while I was contracting for them in NM. That strip of highway between Santa Fe and Farmington is a crazy strip of highway to drive. If you're not driving 100 mph, you're gonna get run over! I never saw many deer while I was out there, but I did see a few Elk.

Anyone else here pistol hunt? I've been practicing with my .357 out to 100 yards and have gotten accurate out to that distance so far. My pistol doesn't have a scope on it, so the 100 yard shots are done with open-sights. I won't say I can hit the bulls eye at that distance, but I can get a kill shot. An old friend of my dad has a range on his property and someone brought a one inch steel plate that's about twelve inches by twelve inches square, and I can hit it every time with my .357 revolver. Any of you other ladies and gents hunt with a pistol?

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Originally posted by Billy:
When I do gun hunt I only slug hunt, no need for a rifle because no need to make very many long range shots, I very seldom hunt open ground.

My belief in this is the farther the shot the farther you have to drag the dang thing.

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Same here Billy! I don't like dragging a deer any farther than necessary. That's why I shoot for the head. The only reason I 'might' shoot for anything else is if the deer has a big rack. I hate chasing deer, and I'm not going to drag one a half a mile to get to my truck. A head shot from short distance is my favorite shot. When I had my house in Ashland City, TN I hunted on eight acres of land behind my house. That land was attached to about 1600 acres of land that no one was allowed to hunt. The farthest I ever dragged a deer on that property was about 30 yards, and that was to get it out of the woods and onto a trail I could drive my truck down to get to it. I cut three separate trails down the back of that property just for that purpose. When I killed a deer, my son and I would take my truck down and load the deer up and drive back up to the back of my house. I would field dress the deer in my driveway. I would rake all of the internal organs into a heavy duty garbage bag, load it up in my truck and take it out into the country. I'd dump the bag on the side of a country road for the coyotes to eat.

plus there is no meat wasted with the head shot, only mounted 2 deer, got alot of antlers that i cut off and use one set to rattle with

I hunt mostly with a pistol, but it's a Savage Stryker in .308. Got a 2 power scope on it, it's deadly accurate out ot 200 meters. If I don't feel like carrying that behomoth, I'll use a Competitor in .44 mag. In NH the woods are to thick to get a real long shot, using a pistol makes it a little more challenging. Not to mention they're a lot lighter to carry, being lazy that's important to me.

Anybody deer hunt with a knife? I know of a guy in Hohenwald, TN that does just that. He was in some sort of search and destroy outfit in Viet Nam where they would track the enemy, wait till night fall, and kill half of them. They left the other half alive to instill fear in the enemy ranks. Anyway, he hunts deer with a big Bowie Knife. The guy who witnessed it said he scouted the area where he was going to hunt, found a tree that extended over a pretty good trail, climbed the tree and waited for the deer to come through. The guy I talked to told me he saw this guy jump out of the tree onto a good sized buck's back and slit it's throat while he was riding it. It's a wild story, but I talked to the guy that witnessed it.

I saw in the news a few years ago, where a guy killed a deer with a spear. I don't remember what state but it was down south. He got in big trouble, it waas considered cruel and unusual. He got a 10,000 dollar fine and went ot jail for a month, lost his hunting privilages for life. Personally I think it takes a lot of balls, but I don't make the laws.

Something I don't unerstand is how people can think one manner of death is any less painful or deadly than any other. How the hell do these people think the indians or the first settlers were able to kill deer or any other game for that matter? The indians used bows and arrows. Some people really piss me off with their ideas about which way is better to die. What freakin difference does it make? If you're dead, your dead!

When the wooly mammoth was still around and the native american people hunted them, they used spears and atlatls to kill them. It would sometimes take several spears and atlatl darts to kill the mammoth.

I see stupid people!

That diving out on a buck to slit his throat just don't sound right. An ole ruttin buck can be pretty nasty. Plus I think it would be pretty hard to do, not saying it can't be done.

In 99 I reaad an article in the New York Times. It was about a guy in Michigan that was attacked by a buck. He wasa fishing a river whan he was attacked by the buck. It was a life and death struggle. I guess he finally got his belt around the bucks neck and choked it to death. He had it hangning from his garage when a conservation office happened by. He confiscated the deer, and starated an investigation. As it turned out there was a report of a deer struck by a car the day before. It was just in so much pain it attacked the first thing it saw. They eventually gave him the animal back. He ate it and had it's head mounted. Now that's a hunting story!!!

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Originally posted by Billy:
That diving out on a buck to slit his throat just don't sound right. An ole ruttin buck can be pretty nasty. Plus I think it would be pretty hard to do, not saying it can't be done.

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Billy, the hard part would be setting up in exactly the right place to accomplish the task of getting on the deer's back. Dealing with his antlers once you were on it would be tough, but I think it could be done. I'm a pretty stout fellow, and I've often wondered if it would be possible to kill a deer with a knife. Then I heard about the guy in Hohenwald, TN. I guess it is possible, but it would take one hell of a bit of luck to get setup just right.

I consider myself a fairly brave guy, buit theres no way in hell I'm going to jump an a bucks back. There's a fine line between bravery and stupidity, I try to stay on the right side!

GW can't shotgun hunt in Colorado I don't drag a Buckskin we hunt on Horseback and use a Pack Horse I carry a Pistol so my Buck don't stomp me and I carry a Skinning knife to hang and bleed him.