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Location: Belgium, Ghent
Registered: 15 August 2009
Posts: 36
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Hi, i'm 17 right now, Belgian (Europe) and i've asked around in defension offices about a career in the Air Force, well they told me this:
When i'm 18 I have to go to Militairy School for 5 years and after those 5 tough years I have to get basic flying training for a year, then 2 years training to fly the aircraft i'm assigned to, F-16C, Helicopter or Transport Plane, but there's no way u can choose what you wanna do. So after 5 years of school and I'd wanna be a combat pilot they can assign me to rescue old lady's stuck in a boat on sea.. AND! Belgian Air Forca has like.. 10 F-16's so chances of ever flying one are small, and i don't feel like study'ing 8 years to be a reserve pilot that's never gonna fly a plane.. The only country I respect is the US, i'm sure you heard something about Belgium or Belgian Forces, we didn't have a gouverment for almost a year and our guys job in Afghanistan is guarding an airport and still they manage to get killed by driving a car into a canyon.. So my question was, is it possible for me as a foreighner to join the US Army and start a much respected career in the USAF? Does anyone have an idea what types of craft the US uses and how long training takes? Would be awesome if someone could aswer these.. Thanks alot! "Land Of Freedom, Home Of The Brave!" |
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"Dozy Old Fat Git" Registered: 16 February 2005
Posts: 1875
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Laurens:
while the US does allow non-Americans to join their military under certain circumstances [ Latin Americans have signed on with the promise of citizenship after serving out, and Canadians have joined US forces and served in Viet Nam, Iraq and other places without having to give up their citizenship - in fact 50,000 Canadians served in US forces far back in the Civil War ] being allowed to sign on doesn't mean you'd be any closer to getting a chance to fly a fighter plane or even get in the cockpit of a Helo or C-130 etc...too many compete for too few slots and they take only the best and brightest... don't mean to rain on your parade but your chances aren't any better in America than they are in Belgium.. and don't demean the Belgian military and its contribution.. Known/Served with some and know them to be a proud and more than competent NATO partner.. the fact that they aren't ' in the thick of things' in Afghanistan has to do with government policy not lack of guts or smarts on the part of those serving.. You want to fly.. prove it to them... as soon as you can, take civvy pilot training on small craft, even commercial, if you can... shows initiative and will build credibility...know a couple of 'kids' who had that under their belt before signing up.. they still had to do all the other stuff and have the right education but they plugged on...reality was that, though both were bright and keen, one washed out and released, the other had to ' settle' for staying on the ground as a 'controller' sitting in a tower/in front of a screen... Don't mean to burst your bubble, but there ain't no shortcuts in the world... There I was , at the head of the old 68th... |
"~Black Metal Goddess~" Location: Renton, Wa
Registered: 14 July 2009
Posts: 480
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Also Laurens, you can’t fly anything in the U.S military with any type of bad vision. I should know. I wanted to be a fighter pilot, but due to my crappy vision I would have been disqualified.
 ~Kali/Elizabeth~  Fake Patriots, and fake veterans! |
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Location: Belgium, Ghent
Registered: 15 August 2009
Posts: 36
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Yh, Belgian Forces aren't that bad, but as you said, they only do NATO missions, they're 'afraid' to allie up with the americans for terrorist attacks in brussels (capital of the EU). So belgian soldiers never really 'make a change', i thought the USAF would be a better desscision because they got a huge Air Force, bases all over the world, so they need more pilots, and i'm really willing to push through. In Belgium because we have so few craft, the pilots are required to know every single piece of equipment, every piece of the craft itself.. 8 years is a long way to go without being sure if you'll ever get to fly, see my point? Aaaah i'd prolly be better off buying a nice old P-40, Zero or ME, get my flying license and goof around a lil in our 'so well protected' airspace xD It's weird though, 10 F-16's (some ar in Libanon right now..) to guard belgian airspace.. If the germans get any ideas.. again, we'd be defenceless lol  "Land Of Freedom, Home Of The Brave!" |
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"Dozy Old Fat Git" Registered: 16 February 2005
Posts: 1875
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Laurens:
Belgian forces do what government tells them to do.. sorry, but that's usually the way things work in a Democracy [LOL]..so, if they are 'tasked' to sit on their butts and watch Spongebob Squarepants.. that's what they do.. want to change it?.. go into politics not the military... As for America with all its bases and such.. No other country in the world spends as much of its GNP on the military so they can afford to have lots of stuff and they have a large population base on which to draw to keep it going..[ financially and manpower-wise ] Even China, No. 2 in military-spending.. is far down the list.. and they have such a huge population [ and mostly male ] that competition for space/jobs in the military is even more fierce. Don't disparage your country and its contribution to geo-politics until you know more...suck it up and do your best knowing the odds are against you.. or give it up now and become a videogame designer [ like that doesn't take an education and competition for space/jobs ].. or you could become a boytoy for some rich cougar-age women on the Riviera...[ SIGH -another dream of Rocketeer's lost to reality ] There I was , at the head of the old 68th... |
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Location: Belgium, Ghent
Registered: 15 August 2009
Posts: 36
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YEAH! xD Belgium's Air Force (because of their away-from-combat status) is almost never involved in a mission, and also because the limited amount of craft, that's my point of this all but i'll see what happens, got a call from a friend earlier who offerend me a job as a globerider xDlook on youtube => speed of death "Land Of Freedom, Home Of The Brave!" |
 Location: USA
Registered: 28 July 2009
Posts: 330
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Are you Flemish or Walloon?
Both were fierce fighters during World War 2. "The Constitution is not an instrument for the government to restrain people,it is an instrument for the people to restrain the government,lest it come to dominate our lives and interests"~ Patrick Henry |
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Location: Belgium, Ghent
Registered: 15 August 2009
Posts: 36
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Are you laughing with me, Lol, cause the Belgian Army was defeated in a few hours during WW2? They were brave enough to stand up to Germany, they wouldn't let them pass through Belgium on their way to France, so the Belgians gave the French a few more hours to gather their men and prepare for combat..  I'm flemish, I speak Dutch, German, French, English and a lil bit of Spanish.. "Land Of Freedom, Home Of The Brave!" |
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Location: USA
Registered: 28 July 2009
Posts: 330
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Actually,I was thinking of those men who fought FOR the Germans,the SS Sturmbrigade Wallonie,and
SS Sturmbrigade Langemarck Please note:I am not criticizing or endorsing any political issues.Simply stating they were fierce fighters. "The Constitution is not an instrument for the government to restrain people,it is an instrument for the people to restrain the government,lest it come to dominate our lives and interests"~ Patrick Henry |
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Location: Belgium, Ghent
Registered: 15 August 2009
Posts: 36
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Oh.. Yh some betrayed Belgium.. My grandfather received medals for hiding american and british pilots and sabotaging german railroads or bridges, and my german grandfather was ordered to leave germany because of his anti-nazi comments lol, please don't associate me with those cowards who ran over to the winning side at that moment "Land Of Freedom, Home Of The Brave!" |
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Location: Belgium, Ghent
Registered: 15 August 2009
Posts: 36
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"Land Of Freedom, Home Of The Brave!" |
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Location: Belgium, Ghent
Registered: 15 August 2009
Posts: 36
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i dont think any belgians actually fought for the germans, they were just informants to inform where allied forces were being hidden or where underground protest groups would operate.. "Land Of Freedom, Home Of The Brave!" |
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Location: USA
Registered: 28 July 2009
Posts: 330
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2..._Division_Langemarck
http://en.allexperts.com/e/0/5...rigade_wallonien.htm Please do not think I am saying ALL Flemish or ALL Walloons were fighting on the German side. These units were NOT involved in atrocities against civilians,they fought primarily AGAINST communism. Again these units were a SMALL sample of the population of Belgium. Regards, "The Constitution is not an instrument for the government to restrain people,it is an instrument for the people to restrain the government,lest it come to dominate our lives and interests"~ Patrick Henry |
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Location: Belgium, Ghent
Registered: 15 August 2009
Posts: 36
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Yh I know ur not being offensive, i'm just ashamed of those traitors... "Land Of Freedom, Home Of The Brave!" |
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"~Black Metal Goddess~" Location: Renton, Wa
Registered: 14 July 2009
Posts: 480
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O.k, what the frik is "Yh", Laurens?
~Kali/Elizabeth~ Fake Patriots, and fake veterans! |
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