The german army was probably the strongest army in both world wars. It needed UK/USA?/France/Russia to defeat Germany twice. Lets face it one-on-one they would have defeated any belligerent in both wars. The only possible exception may be the USA when it fully committed in WW2.

-Numerically USA and Russia had bigger populations (hence bigger armies potentially) and the US certainly was economically more powerful. what was it that made the german army in both wars so strong?? Was it:
-Better tactics
-Better training (higher quality soldiers)
-Better army discipline/ morale
-better command structure in the army
-better weaponry, aircraft, faster tanks, better scientists etc...

Was it a combination of these reasons. can you think of any more reasons???

Germany was highly successful in the early part of the campaigns by the sheer genius of one Adolf Hitler, and some of the best tactical minds in military history. His adept ability in politics allowed him to practically overrun Europe with very little resistance. He orchestrated funding through the Reichstag, employed policy and procedure, and everyone went along with it, because Germany was at the pinnacle of modern industrial technology at the time. The populace was experiencing a level of growth and high living standard in a sound, strong, and independent economy. You can't say the U.S. was equally economically powerful, as we were not using our full potential until late in the war.

Dick, a slight reading of history might dispel some of your enthusiasm about the German army. During WWI, the French and English were not wise in their conduct of the war but attrition caught up with the German army more than anything else.

During war II, they had little resistance at the beginning of the war and threw away their air force against England. Once allies made landings (and we will not talk about leadership in Italy), the Germans never had a chance. Maybe that little trip to Russia was not a wise move on their part.

There are several good books on the subject and I suggest you read one or two if you are really interested in history.

Interesting Subject...No Doubt the Scholars have studied both WW1 and WW2 from every point, and have answers from every view, Germany was only strong for a while. Unlike other countries a Great part of its GNP was placed into the Military budget, while Germany was building ups its war machine other countries did not, bottom line for WW2 Hilter turned out to be Germanys worst enemy!

NO, NO, NO. Better BEER. That's why they kicked ass! Wasn't until we started carpet bombing the cities and destroying all the breweries that they lost their will to fight.

Seriously-- I think Harry hit it right on.

Germany was on the cutting edge of technology, they even had jet fighters at the end of the war. They had balistic missles (V-2), better tanks, radio guided missles and bombs, the first truely effective subs, the list goes on and on. They obvoiusly had severe civil rights violations and the core of the nazi party were pure evil. During there peak no one nation could have stood against them not even the US. There medical technology was 20 years ahead of us because of there ability to do human testing.

forgot one thing, all they had to cross was land. We came to them, they didn't come to us. So who was more powerful when you take all that into this discussion?

Thats because we had support from the british, if germany had taken britian before we entered the war it would have been a whole different ball game. We would have to supply to a hostle shore line from over seas with little forign support. Our navy would have been split so our war fighting effort in japan would have been dramaticly reduced. This extra time may have given the germans or japan the atomic bomb before us and that would have been the end, but GOD had other plans for this earth so that was not the outcome.

I take it that history isn't one of your strong points????

Its not my specialty, but I definatly like watching the history channel. So unless the history channel produces pure nonsense I would say I know a little about history, enough to get the major points. Britian was what allowed us to have a strong foot hole in europe, with out that foot hold we would have had to commit a significantly larger part of our navy to stage invasions etc. And it could have turned the tides in pacific, of course that is speculation because it dident actually happen that way.

Am I missing something?? Wasn't the Navy split in WWII?? I could swear there was a European theatre and a Pacific theatre! Even after a decimating attack on Pearl Harbor, which did indeed shorthand us in the Pacific. We still operated the entire Atlantic fleet, during the same timeframe.

So it actually DID happen that way.

V-2s were rockets, not ballistic missiles. Hence, the V-2 Flying Rocket name.

Ok, but if we did not have air bases and staging grounds to use in great britian we would have to take even more navy than we did from the pacific but we did have great britian so that was not a senario that actually played out. But thats not really what this is about, its about you trying to prove im an idiot because you dont like my views on military politics.

V-2 ballistic missile,
http://www.constable.ca/v2.htm

Werner von Braun was the man, of course Robert H. Goddard was the first to develop and test liquid fuel rockets.

CavScout -you are right our Navy was split the Pearl Habor Fleet was not huge most of the Ships lost on December 7,1941 were in most part older ships which had been upgraded. Atlantic our Fleet was protecting Conveys while Great Britain had a huge Ship of the line fleet we were using the lend lease and Great Britain destroyers were being built in the US or they were using the US destroyers already in existance by the time we went to war we already had new Battleships & Carriers and numbers of Destroyers ready to come out and fight.So infact Great Britain depended on the US and our War building ability

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we don't have to prove yer an idiot, you do that very well all by yer lonesome.....

I know because I agree with human rights and oppose hazing.

No because you are an ignorant young man who got his history from TV instead of a book or, God help you, two or more books.

We will ignore your attempt to hijack this topic.

Im not trying to hijack a thread. Cav is showing his 26 combat arms staff sgt attitude when he cant even concede something as simple as the V-2 ballistic missle just becasue rocket was the common name.

geez, bottle rockets qualify for the term ballistic missle. All ballistic means is that when the engine cuts out, it falls to the ground.

The German Army was not only strong during WW 1 & WW 2 but even today it is becoming stronger each year. Even today their army is the most discipline & highly organize in the world. The German Leopard MBT is a strong symble of the rising strenght of the German Army. I would not be surprise if once again the German Army will be the undisputed leader of the EU forces in the near future.

Everybody knows that while hitler was raising the countrys morale, and troops supply everyone else was doing nothing to stop him. Hitler took out many countries, and forced the people to join his army or die. Thats why his army got so huge so quickley. And when he was taking out countrys NO ONE STOPED HIM!!!!