Sully;

Be a bit clearer with your meaning.

"but when he went to Texas to deliver the message and refused to deliver message to fellow Veterans esp. two MOH's he seperated many Veterans from him"

I don't follow above.....

Sorry before the Election John Kerry or Dem. Party sent Max Cleland to Crawford Texas with a letter concerning the Swiftboat's adds.He refused to deliver letters to fellow Veterans who repersented President Bush .

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Originally posted by Sully:
Sorry before the Election John Kerry or Dem. Party sent Max Cleland to Crawford Texas with a letter concerning the Swiftboat's adds.He refused to deliver letters to fellow Veterans who repersented President Bush .

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If I recall he was tasked with delivering those to President Bush, not the Veterans. Is that correct?

Yes that is correct but since when does a messenger of a Senator decide how the President of the United States receives that message and since when did Max Cleland decide those MOH Veterans who repersented the President were below him.

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Yes that is correct but since when does a messenger of a Senator decide how the President of the United States receives that message and since when did Max Cleland decide those MOH Veterans who repersented the President were below him.

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We have an MOH vet here. He doesn't have the authority to accept messages in my behalf, though his decorations far outrank mine.

If I, when in my role as Police Shift Commander, I gave a message to one of my patrolman and told him to deliver it personally to the Mayor, Governor, etc - then that is what I expected to have done. No one else gets it. If the person isn't there to accept the message - you don't deliver it to someone else to whom it is not addressed unless advised to do so by the sender.

I expect the same applied when the Senator sent the message.

Best I can tell you then Chief is your understanding of the chain of Command is diffrent than mine.

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Best I can tell you then Chief is your understanding of the chain of Command is diffrent than mine.

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Chain of Command has nothing to do with it....

It wasn't a message delived within military organization.

Who do you consider the Commander and Chief in the Military.The way I feel there is one hell of a diffrence between a Senator & President.

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Who do you consider the Commander and Chief in the Military.The way I feel there is one hell of a diffrence between a Senator & President.

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In a military operation, the Senator has no say. This was not a military operation, but a political campaign. I trust you knew the context.

well, regardless of the situationals and circumstances, what she said about a VietNam Veteran in a wheelchair was simply lower than a pregnant snake's bellybutton.

He uses his disability for political purposes. Besides, while his service is honorable, his disability occurred due to an unfortunate accident.

I have always considered her a hustler preying upon the right wing to buy her smack. Clelan ain't the only disabled Nam vet she insulted.

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Character?]http://www.fair.org/extra/0211/annslanders.html]Character? What character...[/URL]

"Absolutely out of character"

During an interview with FAIR's radio show CounterSpin (8/9/02), Coulter challenged a story about her reported by Washington Post media reporter Howard Kurtz:

Howard Kurtz made up a quote about a Vietnam vet, which he knows he made up, which has now run twice in the Washington Post, once in Talk magazine, once in People Magazine, once in the Washingtonian. It's something I allegedly said on TV. Why doesn't somebody produce a tape of that?

Coulter was referring to Kurtz's account of a 1997 debate on MSNBC's NewsChat show (10/11/97), when Coulter was a paid MSNBC contributor. According to Kurtz (Washington Post, 10/16/98), "Coulter was debating a disabled Vietnam vet when she snapped: 'People like you caused us to lose that war.' (She says she didn't know the guest, appearing by satellite, was disabled.) That ended her MSNBC career."

That Post report, Coulter told CounterSpin, was "absolute lies.... It's absolutely out of character for me."

Extra! asked Kurtz about the charge that he'd fabricated the quote for his report. In an email, Kurtz responded: "The account of Ann Coulter's remarks to the veteran on MSNBC was provided to me by Coulter herself, who told me she liked the piece and never complained about the passage until she was trying to sell books."

Kurtz also told Extra! that MSNBC had confirmed that Coulter was let go after making such a comment to a disabled Vietnam veteran.

In the MSNBC NewsChat segment, in which Coulter debated Bobby Muller, president of the Vietnam Veterans of America Foundation, her exact words to the paralyzed veteran were: "No wonder you guys lost." She was interrupting Muller's point about the role that landmines played in the Vietnam War: "In 90 percent of cases that U.S. soldiers got blown up--Ann, are you listening?--they were our own mines."

Muller responded to Coulter's remark with an incredulous "Say that again," while moderator Felicia Taylor sharply rebuked the in-house pundit: "OK, we're not going to get into that conversation. Ann, that was unnecessary! Mr. Muller, please continue...."

Coulter could say that Kurtz did not quote her exact words--though considering that she was the apparent source of his report, that would take some chutzpah. "People like you caused us to lose that war" is a fairly accurate paraphrase of "no wonder you guys lost," so there's no sense in which Kurtz's article is an "absolute lie" that depicts her saying something "absolutely out of character for me."

For some good reading on that rhymes with witch try "Lies, and the Lying Liars that Tell them" by Al Franken. Another good book by him is "Rush Limbaugh is a Big Fat Idiot".

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He uses his disability for political purposes. Besides, while his service is honorable, his disability occurred due to an unfortunate accident.

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Hey fivepknh!!

And George Bush used his political pull to get into the TANG - way ahead of many else in line. Then also capitalized on that in his political rise...

Max's disability Line-of-Duty in a Combat Zone - Somewhere GWB was never going to go... Nor intended to...

So your point???

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For some good reading on that rhymes with witch try "Lies, and the Lying Liars that Tell them" by Al Franken. Another good book by him is "Rush Limbaugh is a Big Fat Idiot".

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Al who?



His books are like sour grapes from the dimmer stars of the celebrity galaxy.....

El Rushbo has more brains and talent in his pylonidal cyst than Franken could ever hope to have. I laugh.....