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Registered: 03 October 2007
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He's pretty clever. I like how he stuck to Obama without Obama knowing it.
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I agree but listening to Obama supporters say different.
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That's just it, I don't listen to Obama supporters. I went to MSNBC and sure enough they were at with the " McCain came off as mean and cruel, etc, " bit. McCain was smart, I noticed he kept rolling up the same words over and over. Two words in particular : INEXPERIENCED & NAIVE. Obama said too many things to the point of being VAGUE. Does anybody remember anything he said right off the bat? No. Short and simple pleases every crowd.

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I think the most important thing is there will be a lot of older and more transparent voters start to show up in the polls.Best I can say is if Obama becomes President he will not be able to vote present when Putin looks him in the eye.
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Obama is really a very boring bag of wind. I never watched the DNC debates or the Democrat convention, but if this guy is supposed to be the " BIG ROCK STAR " , he's a one hit wonder. Each retort of his had another retort with a sudden " one more thing..." kind of crap. By the time Obama finished I'd already forgot what in the hell the question was. Around and around we were all forced to go. People just want a straight answer, not a long winded complex boast. A smile once in a blue moon could help too. Right after McCain spoke blunt about the Georgia situation Obama went in to some odd story about 1962 and his father. WTF? Obama kept repeating that he agrees with McCain on all sorts of stuff. That was NOT smart. McCain won. Nothing beats having your opponent agreeing with you every other subject.

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I was kinda the same way I thought it was kinda funny everyone was worried about McCain's temper would come out but instead it was clear Obama got angry a couple of times have you read some of the fact checks that some have run it clearly shows mistakes about things Obama has flip flopped on.
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I think Obama finally made the Guinness Book Of World Records by using the word " auh.." more than any human on the planet. I might might be auh wrong but auh I will auh take a auh good look at the auh situation to auh see if auh I am auh right. Confused
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I (mostly) agree with the pundits who say it was a "very close tie". I found nothing inspiring (THAT sound bite, the press is so goo-goo over). As a matter of fact, it seemed both candidates were trying to too hard to get THAT sound bite. McCain was overly aggressive (which many of his followers seemed to enjoy, and most of his detractors seem to abhor), and Obama was (yet again) vague, verbose, and wandering often off topic so far afield it became annoying. Obama seemed to have prepared a list of potential THAT sound bites and awkwardly shoved them into the debate whenever possible. McCain, with his over aggressive stance, seem to be hoping to score that "gotcha" sound bite....and never did.

So, nobody scored the Howard Dean scream for the (apparently) ADD American voter who decides their vote based on 15 second sound bites. How sad. There's always next time.
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patoloco

True. One thing is for sure : nobody wants 37 answers to one single question ( Obama ). Obama even used the word " dissect " when it came to cuts with spending etc,. Another clever way of complicating everything for everybody. McCain was just curt more or less.
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Point of view. No one really won and it should not have been so. McCain did not look sharp to me and he should have stuck to topic more than he did. Obama said nothing of importance.


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Originally posted by sully5x5:
I agree but listening to Obama supporters say different.


Yup. That's called confirmation bias. ...People hear what they wanna hear. (My guy won.)

The crazy thing is... in the final political debates, it seems candidates do not talk in a lot of depth anyway so whoever "wins" is sometimes just the smoothest talker.
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