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Many Women Served in Vietnam

Bullet Special Services ". . . significant numbers of women served admirably in all branches of service as professional nurses, physical therapists, occupational therapists, air traffic controllers, aerial reconnaissance photographers, intelligence and language specialists, legal officers, and in security and administrative positions. Civilian women also served in Vietnam in the Red Cross, USO, the Central Intelligence Agency and the U.S. Agency for International Development, as well as in other government agencies. Other women worked there as journalists, flight attendants, and in various church and humanitarian organizations.

Where are these women today? Could they possibly be your wife, your nurse, co-worker, your supervisor, your physician or your next door neighbor? Could you find them if you looked? These women have camouflaged themselves, an easy task in our society. All they have to do is keep quiet.

Women served alongside men in that sink-pit of war. For the country to heal, these women need to reveal the full depth of their experiences, first to themselves and then to the rest of us. It's time for women's experiences and contributions to be recognized and acknowledged as an important part of the history of the Vietnam conflict."
Joan Arrington Craigwell and Ellen Hoffman Young
Bullet Correspondents
Bullet Civilians Employed
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Bullet Civilian Nurses
Bullet USAID
Bullet Military Dependents
Bullet Entertainers
Bullet USO
Bullet Humanitarian
Bullet Weather Girls
Bullet Operation Babylift
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Bullet Military Women
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Special Services (DOD)

In Memoriam

Special Services was directly under the Army, that is, the military attached to it were Army and the civilians were direct Department of Defense employees. It had several divisions related to morale and recreation and operated world-wide, including on Army bases in the States. The divisions were service clubs, libraries, arts and crafts, entertainment, sports, and movies. In Vietnam, Special Services also administered the Rest & Recreation program.

For a free e-mail newsletter for all Special Services personnel (male and female, any era), contact Ann Kelsey

Civilian Women in Vietnam - Ann Kelsey, Cam Ranh Bay (from Celebration of Patriotism & Courage)

"The Special Services Program was composed of several branches, but the civilians, both women and men, who volunteered to serve one year tours in Vietnam were concentrated in the Arts and Crafts, Entertainment, Library, and Service Club sections"

* Interview with an Administrative Librarian - Ann Kelsey, Cam Ranh Bay

"I was called to shut down a library, because the brigade was being trucked to Cambodia. In the midst of all this, President Nixon began broadcasting on the radio saying that there was no invasion of Cambodia."

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Another interview
"The soldiers used the library to read magazines and newspapers from the States, to get books to help them with
correspondence courses they might be taking, and for general recreational reading."
* A Trip Back to Vietnam, 1992 - Ann Kelsey

"There were, however, a few fleeting signs of past enmities. An old gentleman who spoke perfect French, asked me if this was my first trip to Vietnam. I replied in French that no, it was my second. My first was in the south in 1969. His eyes flickered, and he changed the subject. "

* A Trip Back to Vietnam, 1994 - Ann Kelsey

"I thought about the war that had been fought up and down this peaceful, beautiful coastline, in these rice fields and villages -- Chu Lai, My Lai, the Que Son Valley, Da Nang, A Shau, Hue, Phu Bai -- and hundreds of fire bases and landing zones now gone, still existing only in the memories of those who fought there. It seemed unreal, as if two different worlds, the one that was and the one that is, were converging and occupying the same space."

Vietnam 1968-69..... A Woman's Reflections.

"My favorite memories...hopping flights...Opening a club....the guys ....my bunker-home in TayNinh... ....the end of the 3rd Offensive... ...leaving the Valley.... saying *welcome home*...remembering friends... hoping that their lives have been as full and enriched as mine has been....Godspeed...."

Rumors of War - Cathleen Cordova

"Please don't misunderstand, there's nothing wrong with being called a Donut Dollie if you were one. But just as all women in Vietnam were not Army nurses, all civilian women in-country were not Red Cross Donut Dollies. "



Cathleen Cordova - Letter from Vietnam

"Don’t worry about me, Love, Cathy"



"How do I explain this? Where to start? How far back do I go (to Vietnam?) to pick up the loose threads of this story, and begin to unravel the emotions I want to express and explore."

Another Kind of Veteran, But a Veteran Nonetheless - Nancymay S. Healy

"I worked in a recreation center where we provided a little bit of home to the infantrymen. It was like any community recreation center. There were pool and ping-pong tables, cards, magazines and newspapers, table games, puzzles, and occasional entertainment by visiting USO celebrities or soldier shows."

Vietnam Vet Works on Memorial Proposal

This is from a report dated 15 April 1970 of clubs in operation as of that date. The report was in one of the General Historical File folders in the Entertainment Branch records in the National Archives. Specific box and folder citation available on request.

I am looking for photos of the hospitals, service clubs, and Red Cross recreation centers to link to, or put up on the website. Here is the sort of thing I want. Please contact me if you can assist or if you have a website or photos I can link to.
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War Torn: Stories of War from the Women Reporters who Covered Vietnam (edited by Jurate Kazickas - Laura Palmer is a contributor to the book)

Inspired by a conference which reunited many of these pioneering women. Nine women reporters recount what their war in Vietnam was like: Tad Bartimus, Denby Fawcett, Ann Mariane, Jurate Kazickas, Kate Webb, Laura Palmer, Edith Lederer, Anne Merick and Tracy Wood

From the Back Cover: “This book is about our experiences as women reporters covering the Vietnam War from 1966 until the fall of Saigon, in 1975. Each of us has written a chapter about what we saw and felt in Indochina—our adventures, fears, excitement, and the difficulties and loneliness."
United States United Kingdom Germany France
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Canada
[hardback]

Women Covering the War - By Cristina Rouvalis and Bill Schackner, Post-Gazette staff writers

"Kazickas, a researcher for Look magazine, had been told by her boss that there was no way she would be sent to cover the war in Vietnam. After all, she was 24, totally green and had never published a word. The magazine's male war correspondent had just been killed in Vietnam. It wasn't about to send a woman."



Shrapnel in the Heart - Laura Palmer

"Saigon still feels like my hometown because it is where the rest of my life began. It is where I first worked as a reporter and where I wrote the first article I ever published. More important, it is where I met friends I would love forever."

Fini Bye Bye - Tad Bartimus

"But for those of us who went to Vietnam there was no end, only departure. In middle age we now have other friends, loving relatives, meaningful work. But behind the façade we share the same demons and angels and when we are together we are code talkers who share an emotional shorthand."

List of Women Journalists with Biographies

In conjunction with the West Virginia University conference

On Their Own: Female Correspondents in Vietnam

"Many of the women correspondents — those whom Michael Herr in his book Dispatches dismissively refers to as “girl reporters” — were esteemed among the troops with whom they saw action, and the stories they told enriched the public understanding of the war and its enigmas."

Ann Caddell Crawford

"If you poke around any book shop in Vietnam that sells foreign language books, one of the first titles you are likely to encounter is Customs and Culture of Vietnam. Authored by Ann Caddell Crawford, this book was one of the first—perhaps the first—guides to Vietnam penned for American readers. "

Women on the Frontline

For many of the women journalists who covered it, the Vietnam War was a pivotal experience that profoundly shaped and influenced their personal and professional lives.

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Civilians Employed by the Military

In Memoriam

Interview with an Air Force employee - Shirley Ann McCormick Youngblood

"Living in a war zone was emotionally dangerous also. "You had to put a shield around your feelings," she said." (The Air Force would not send women in the Air Force to Vietnam, but sent civilians.)

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Civilian Nurses & Humanitarian Workers & USAID
(U.S. Agency for International Development)

In Memoriam

Babylift

"Even our years as nurses hadn't prepared us for what we found at the FCVN Center. Every inch of every floor of the stately French mansion was covered with blankets or mats--each of which was covered with babies--hundreds of crying, cooing infants, each orphaned or abandoned. "

Civilian Nurses - Australian Surgical Teams Vietnam (CN-ASTV)

Australian teams of civilian nurses and doctors served in Vietnam for 16 years commencing 1964. As a result the health of many of them has been permanently affected, both physically and mentally. A group of them calling itself Civilian Nurses - Australian Surgical Teams Vietnam (CN-ASTV) is campaigning for recognition as war casualties. At the moment the victims are getting no help from the Australian government or the military, they received no post trauma counselling or any other form of support on their return.

Secretary - Barbara Parsons Rozell

"When I was living in a hotel downtown I was thrown from bed when a rocket hit the back of the building. And once at the office a rocket landed in our parking lot creating a hell of a crater but I don't remember it injuring anyone."

A Mystical Moment in the Rain on the Streets of Da Nang, 1970 - Janice Hermerding

"She had been an ASCP (American Society of Clinical Pathologists) Medical Technologist there; and she was a specialist in blood banking. While residing in Minneapolis, Minnesota, she had volunteered to go directly to Vietnam after her training, to participate in the AMA (American Medical Association) Education Project. The AMA adopted the Saigon Medical School; and various Universities throughout the U.S. participated. The University of Missouri, of which she was an alumni, sponsored Pathology - so that is what she was doing while in Vietnam. She told me that she was an instructor in Medical Laboratory Procedures in Saigon,"


"The enrollment at our school was 120 students, most of who were in their late teens. They dressed very neatly in white pants, white shirts and wore white caps that reminded me of those our American nurses wore. They were punctual with no absenteeism."

Bobbie the Weather Girl - AFVN TV Saigon

"Officially, Bobbie was a secretary for the U.S. Agency for International Development (USAID) who worked at the Mondial Hotel USAID Annex in Cholon and lived on Nguyen Hue Street in Saigon (1967-68-69). "


Pain and Pride - Marion Mullin, RN, Danang; Pat Walsh, RN; Susan Leigh, ANC, Anne Payne, ANC

"Our guys would shoot them and we would patch them up," she said. "The perfect example was this old man with cataract-covered eyes. He was clutching a dirty rag to his abdomen while he smoked his pipe. He spoke of the attack on his village and the helicopters he saw. He had never been in a building with four walls before this one. He refused to get on a stretcher and it wasn't until the end of the day that he finally allowed me to touch him. When he moved the rag, his bowels fell out on the floor. While I helped rush him to surgery, he asked me why would white men make this hole and then a white woman try to patch it up? It was such wisdom."

The Other Angels - Pat Walsh, RN & Maureen Mullins, RN

Walsh explains that the civilian nurses in Vietnam came from all over the world, but mostly from the United States; they were sent by the Agency for International Development and the U.S. Health Service. The majority of the nurses were in their twenties, yet were considered old in comparison to the very young GIs. The women often worked for "twenty-one hours a day," spending much of their time teaching Vietnamese nurses and doctors. They lived and ate locally and learned to speak the language. See also info on Pat Walsh's film of this title.

Lady Borton on meeting a female Viet Cong

While my western medical colleagues fit war-wounded Vietnamese with artificial limbs, I made runs to the American base to pick up mail, fetched supplies, and transported patients, stopping along dusty village paths to chat, listen, and watch.


"My last chance, I thought. "I have no connection with the military," I said. "I work for a peace organization. We help war-wounded on all sides." I described Quaker Service work in Quang Ngai, our assistance to North Viet Nam, and to areas of South Viet Nam controlled by the Viet Cong, or Provisional Revolutionary Government, as it was officially known."

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Military Dependents

Ann Caddell Crawford

"Ann Caddell Crawford arrived at Saigon’s Tan Son Nhut Airport with her three pre-school children."

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Entertainers

In Memoriam

The Hilltop Singers - Entertainers for the USO

"The girls explain why they are touring overseas: 'If the troops can't go to the coffee house, let's take the coffee house to the troops.'"

Entertainer Chris 'Miss Christmas' Noel Earned the Right to Call Herself a Vietnam Veteran

"Noel trooped out to rifle companies, where she chatted with the boys in bunkers, danced on mess hall tables and played rock 'n' roll on her portable phonograph. She even visited motor pools, maintenance shops, graves registration and the morgue."

* Chris Noel's website
* Tribute website

Martha Raye "Colonel Maggie" – Nurse, Entertainer, and Honorary Green Beret

"She had been traveling to Vietnam (I am told that she paid her own way) and spent weeks, and sometimes up to six months at a time in country. She kept this pace up for over nine years during the Vietnam War. She was not there just to entertain the troops, but also engaged in nursing work where ever it was needed. She spent most of her time out in the field, or in the hospitals. She went to some of the most dangerous and remote locations in Nam."

Vietnam Diary - Aviva Sheb'a

"I'm seeking contact with other Vietnam Veteran Entertainers, especially those who like me, were not high-profile."

Mamie Van Doren

". . . there is nothing more comforting to the troops in harm's way far from home than seeing those dancing girls and hearing those musicians, and yes, hearing Bob Hope's god-awful jokes, even though the son of a bitch flew into Vietnam during the day to do his shows and spent his nights in safety in Thailand and made millions off of the shows by selling them to television when he returned."

"Entertaining Vietnam" - the Documentary

The DVD is now available!

Photo Albums on Vietnam Entertainers

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Slide Show
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Photos of Entertainers

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USO

United Service Organization, ran recreation centers and many of the entertainers and celebrities who toured Vietnam were there under USO auspices. USO personnel were more likely to live on the local economy, rather than in military housing, and unlike the Red Cross and Special Services, they did not have uniforms. They wore civvies.

USO Show Time with Diana Dell AFVN Saigon May 1970


"This fresh, Vietnam War romantic comedy-drama, filled with colorful characters, snappy dialogue, and biting political commentary, centers around three twenty-something American women, who learn about life and love while working at the USO in 1971-72 Saigon."

For These Women, The Battle Continues

"Maureen Nerli, who is a former USO worker, says, "Ever since I came home from Vietnam I have had one illness after another. Maureen is also distressed that although she served 18 months in Vietnam as a volunteer, her service isn't officially recognized by the government, which excludes her from VA health benefits.."

Connie Stevens discusses her return to Vietnam


Bobbie the Weather Girl - AFVN TV Saigon

"Unofficially, and other-wise, Bobbie traveled to the field as a morale booster. She escaped gun fire, slept in bunkers, flew in helicopters, rode ACVs, mules, rome plows, and was catapulted on and off ships such as the USS Enterprise -- all to show she cared and to spread cheer to remote places." Bobbie's Website


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